Clouds Ascending (Q&A with James and Noah)

by Noah on 12/19/2008 - 7:13pm

James: So Noah, where was this photo "Clouds Ascending" taken, and what time of day?

Noah: It was taken on the Inca trail probably at around 7:30 in the morning

James: Were there others around?

Noah: Yeah, there were some other people on the trail.

J: Did you chat with any of them?

N: Yeah actually, some of them were really cool. I met this one dude hauling a guitar up there but he didn't know how to play. That was so weird.

J: Haha! Did you play it?

N: Of course haha

J: That's a lovely spot for guitar-playing. I remember when I was in Spain and it had only been like a week and a half since I had last played the guitar, but i was having withdrawal problems. That was when I bought my "quatro" instrument. It took me so long to find a musical instrument shop

N: Yes. Though I'm all about mooching of other folks, tactfully of course.

J: Who else did you encounter?

N: This dude from the US who had served two tours in Iraq and was traveling around now, he had suffered a head injury from a mine or something. He was a really good guy, really sort of free in a interesting way, really calm and open to everything.

J: How refreshing!

N: I actually met three Iraq vets on my trip. They were all interesting and good people. I met this one woman – okay this is good – she had this beautiful energy and everything, really nice. She was an officer, really sort of liberal, didn't agree with bush... okay whatever. So her job—you know how they have these groups troops that in the middle of the night break down doors and scare the shit out of people looking for terrorists, and often they break into the wrong house—so her job was to apologize when they fucked it up.

J: Wow!

N: Yeah, like offer money and express condolences on behalf of the troops who had trashed the family's place and scared the shit out of their kids.

J: It sounds like she's a good person for the job.

N: Yeah I guess; I think she was just trying to be compassionate in a psychotic situation, I think she was sincere But I dunno, it's still pretty messed up IMO, but impressive.

J: Messed up – you mean the whole situation in Iraq, or the apology/money offering?

N: The whole situation, and how she sort of justified her role in what was happening. I thought she was really cool actually.

J: I'd be interested in hearing more about that justification. It seems like something unavoidable.

N: The truth is i don't really know that well. I mean I met people who disagreed with what they were doing, but did it anyway. I think it's impressive that they were able to do the best they could in a horrible situation, and try to bring as much kindness or positive energy to it. Maybe that's just life, and all you can do. I don't think I could involve myself with the war in anyway because I disagree with it so much, at least not as a member of the military.

J: right

N: but some people managed to

J: It's amazing enough to be there, and still be able to disagree with the policies that got you there.

N: Yeah. This other guy I met had a really chilled attitude about it. He was actually an extremely gentle person. He told me that he spent two years there and never fired a single round.

J: It turns into a big question because individual soldiers, like the officer you met who makes apologies, may be doing good, compassionate things, and may be a stabilizing force in the city in which they're working, but even then, one is involved in the overall conflict.

N: Right. One's actions are still being used by whoever's benefiting from this disaster. I wasn't interested in making judgments, but I was fortunately not in a situation where I had to, as they were.

J: Taking responsibility is a complicated matter; and as interesting as Iraq is, I want to return somewhat to Peru!

N: Ok

J: So to stay somewhat on the same topic, I'm wondering: how much did you think of the US while you were there? And, further, in what ways did you think about the US – e.g. did you think about things like the war, or US-Peru relations, whatever those might be (i am unaware...)? Friends and family? Etc.

N: Well, I did think about the US a fair bit. Actually, the US has negative relations with Latin America.

J: Yeah, I've heard a few horror stories from the last century or so, but my knowledge is very limited.

N: We are not particularly liked there, even though we have such related economies. I mean a big thing, a big issue in the Andes, is the US pressure to eradicate coca farms. The problem is that to the indigenous communities of the Andes, of which there are many members, that plant is sacred, it's religious and holy, and deeply ingrained in culture, mythology, and society.

J: Not something we're very good at paying attention to.

N: No. So when we go down there setting shit on fire or pressuring the governments to destroy coca farms, we are actually stamping all over these people's religious/cultural heritage; although there are some positive efforts to get farmers to grow rice and stuff instead, which makes more sense. Also, China and Peru signed a free trade treaty while I was there, which will probably diminish somewhat US influence in Peru. But they grow some of our fancy Whole Foods vegetables and we send them HFC and other trash. So obviously many people aren't crazy about the US.

J: This whole burning coca fields reminds me of our policy of burning poppy fields in Afghanistan, which seems to be as stupid a policy in both countries.(hitchens on that )

N: Yeah, I mean no doubt making coke is a problem, but the US policy regarding psychoactive plants (which unprocessed coca is not) really makes no sense. I thought it was cool that in Peru, there were all these plants with various medicinal or mystical properties, and instead of calling them drugs and making them illegal, people just interact with them.

J: Clearly there are better ways of lessening drug use than pretending one can wipe out the sources of the drugs.

N: Anyway, you've traveled in Latin America so you know how different it feels there, and when I got there I had no idea how to do anything but when I left I was really starting to groove on the whole energy and rhythm and language of the place. It's cool how you start to adapt.

J: How long after you arrived did you try out the medicinal/mystical cactus?

N: I just did that last Saturday, and i arrived in Peru in September.

J: Cool. So that was after just about everything. Tell me a little bit more about that experience. You've had about a week to reflect on it a bit more, a little more distance from it.

N: I mean have you ever read The Doors of Perception by Huxley?

J: I haven't.

N: Ah, well. Basically what happened is that I drank this cactus juice in the mountains after fasting for a day, the day before. I had to come to it with a question or intention about healing or understanding something, so I asked to understand my fear, and then I drank the thing and it took about 45 minutes to start.

So, a lot happened but in terms of just the sense of the effects: somehow you start to see everything existing in itself. I mean it was like the things I normally see or account for became unimportant and what was important was how things felt; everything was so alive with energy. I mean for example: I was slightly aware of the passage of time and of space and distance, but these things didn't matter. There was a sense of opening; everything took on the quality of infinity. I guess there was a sense of infinite freedom, infinite being, maybe you can call that emptiness, or void, or whatever.

So that was happening; at the same time there was also the world of myself, there was the selfless Being or Self of reality, and there was my self, which I could see very clearly, and that self was very afraid. That self was stuck in this body.

J: So you were seeing yourself afraid. Was there a kind of distance?

N: Well yes and no.

J: Were you feeling the fear at the same time?

N: I was seeing myself, but I was also feeling everything very intensely. When you drink this medicine it at first makes you feel sick, and frequently people throw up. I think its actually a cleansing property. And I felt sick, and that sickness became a representation of my fear, and I wanted to throw it up.

There was a battle I had with the plant at first, trying to purge myself of it, or of this fear, but I couldn't, it wouldn't let me.

And while this is going on I'm hiking around in these mountains and its so awfully huge and I hadn't eaten for a while. That was a very important part of it, the fasting. So I am there and I realize that I can't get rid of this fear that is keeping me from embracing Freedom; I realize that I am carrying trauma. I don't even know what it is, this pain and suffering in the memory of all my cells, in every part of me, but it feels like the defining quality of this self that i think I am. And then I know, really know, that the fear is actually a memory of pain, a pain in all my body and mind. And for a moment I thought it was going to completely annihilate me. I went to Peru feeling lost, and in this moment I realized that I was indeed lost. I mean, I didn't really understand what I was doing. My body knew how to move around and stuff, but I didn't understand how to use it. I was very attached to wanting to control everything. That was part of the pain, because the experience was so open, and the pain was against all of that.

J: It is starting to sound like something much more than a one-time event caused by this cactus juice you consumed. I was about to ask: resistance? The pain was resistance? And then I thought to myself: resistance to what? And I realized this experience doesn't sound so different than perhaps every moment in your life is.

N: Of course not. I got exactly what I asked for, except I was too afraid, it hurt too much, to go as deeply into that terror as I could have. I mean, I was really starting to freak out, you know. I could see the infinite freedom all around me and I wanted to go to it but I was consumed by fear (= pain). I guess that's what we are most afraid of, the formless. But that's exactly what the plant opens you to. And I felt that something had traumatized me, my body, my mind, my self, in the past. I wasn't sure whether it was my own, or something more universal, or both, but it was almost what "I" was.

Anyway at that moment this dog came up to me, it was this sheep dog or something, but it was owned by the woman in whose garden I drank the plant, and I was wandering around in some rocks somewhere far away, in this ancient natural temple actually, and I didn't know how to get back but this dog showed me the way. It took me back to this garden, and it was okay, like I had gone far enough for one day you know. It was okay to go back with this creature to the garden, which in my head was like some garden of Eden or something. (maybe thats why i came home recently)

And inside the walls of this garden was the iconography of every major religion. She had this altar to everything. And all that symbolism, that mythology or whatever, was so profoundly beautiful to me at that moment, it had such resonance, all of it equally. And I understood somehow why it existed, that what I was experiencing was, though specific to me, part of this universal human struggle and all those symbols were there to help me bridge the gap between the suffering and fear in my self, and the boundless.

J: Ahh, that is really quite gorgeous. It sounds like the kind of experience I talk about often enough, but haven't really known. I've been thinking about responsibility this week, of course, and this feels like the missing link, the piece that most of us in the West haven't gotten -- the novelists and existentialists and so on. It feels, really, like emptiness, interconnectedness. "All those symbols were there to help me," and you were there "to bridge the gap between [...] suffering and fear, in [your]self, and the boundless." I.e. form is emptiness, emptiness is form, no?

N: Yes. I'm not saying I succeeded in anything, in fact (and there were many many other aspects and events in this 14 hour journey) I spent most of the time feeling sad that the door was open and I couldn't step through. But yes: the plant, or the drug or whatever, it's like it quiets the part of your mind that keeps it all out, the part that restricts and codifies everything as seperate and isolated by time and space, and the hugeness of being just offers itself to you, and you have to deal with that.

J: Yeah.

N: I mean, the weird thing was how acutely I felt everything. When I was walking back to my hostel through the city, I felt the energy of every person, and sometimes it was horrible and I wanted to throw up. The best was like looking at a picture of the Buddha or a flower or a tree; I could just feel being and life breathing endlessly through everything. It's interesting you know, San Pedro shows you something, but its not permanent. It can't replace what you do in life at all, but it was amazing to have such an intense experience of it, even if it was fleeting, and even though,mostly, I was suffering. It was all still so beautiful and a really good thing for me to do.

J: It sounds it. I also imagine that one can't merely attribute this experience to the plant, but also – despite the fact that you were mostly suffering, and despite the fleeting nature of the experience – to your own openness to the nature of things, and to the depths of fear limiting you from recognizing it.

N: Oh sure, the plant only sort of interacts with whatever you are bringing into it. I mean, as our friend says, no ship takes you away from yourself, right?

J: And you asked an amazing question.

N: Yeah. There isn't much hallucinating to it, except that at a certain point the physical world seemed arbitrary, existent but not Real. I remember realizing that I had to deal with my body and feed it, and in trying to prepare food, I couldn't understand how anybody dealt with all the things, the objects in the world. At that point it became a problem, and eating finally returned me to the physical realm, where I am happy to live. If you ever happen to be in Peru, and feel adventurous, I'd recommend this experience once. There is apparently another one many many times more powerful, but I don't think I would need that.

J: Me neither!

speaking of which: Letter to Andrew Sullivan

Submitted by james on Sat, 12/20/2008 - 1:53am.

Hey Andrew,

Alexandra Penney's story seems to be a lesson about ignorant attachment. The tragedy is not that she lost her life savings -- although that is a painful fate I would wish on no one -- but that she is devastated to the point of (probably earnest) suicidal thoughts because of it. The thing about life is that there are not (m)any clear rules or guarantees, and this is just as much the up-side as it is the down-side. Penney seems like a hard worker, and someone who certainly doesn't "deserve" to lose everything -- but, what has she lost? There is no intrinsic meaning to this -- like everything in life -- and it may just as well be an opportunity as a tragedy. But, perhaps unfairly using Penny as an example, she has learned to identify with her "life" and her things over the years, and now asks embarrassing questions like, "How am I going to iron those shirts so I can still feel like a poor civilized person?" I am sympathetic to the world-shaking nature of her experience, and cannot quite imagine what it would be like to have the ground pulled out from under me like that... but isn't that the point here? Isn't the point that we begin to get so settled into the impermanent, un-real "ground" we set beneath our own feet that if the ground shakes, it feels as if the entire world is rumbling?

How is she going to iron those shirts? Forgive me for saying so but, she will iron them in the same way Yolanda does -- with an iron and an ironing board. I can feel sympathetic for the devastation she is feeling, but not for the fact that she has been reduced to subway rides -- like poor civilized people such as myself. Some of what is to be learned here, which goes beyond lessons about who to trust with your money (clue: perhaps a "secret society" tips itself off) is clear; what is to be learned is about trust at a much deeper level, trust of self -- trust of self to the extent that a sudden and grave loss is, though painful no doubt, not world-shattering. After all, the world goes on -- and Penney even has responsible people in her life who love her and are there for her. The loss of her studio will be a profound one, and this I certainly find worthy of much grieving. But again, the world only feels cruel and frightening because of her attachment to the things she has lost... as harsh as it may seem to say: it is not necessary that Penney feel her only way out is a cyanide pill, and she is responsible for these feelings. We can learn something from this unfortunate event; and if she is open to it, I am sure there is plenty for her to learn from it, too.

JAMES, ANDREW SULLIVAN, ALEXANDRA PERRY AND BUTTERFLIES

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Sun, 12/21/2008 - 9:39am.

There is much I love about this post: it’s not only well-written but it’s written well. This is a post about perspective and awareness. Loss is a given in life. Some would say loss is necessary if necessary means inherently so. Impermanence means change and change means loss; all things flow into and through each other and the river we step into we cannot step into again. Suffering is not loss, though most of us seem to think so. Suffering is our interpretive reaction to loss. When we experience a physical affliction, the body feels pain. Suffering occurs the moment the mind interprets the pain and assigns a negative emotional significance to it. This is what James means when he says that life has few rules and guarantees and that there is no intrinsic meaning to loss. We, as culture, assign or impute meaning to loss. This is why tragedy could transform to sadness. Tragedy is devoid of meaning; sadness is rife with meaning. Meaning is the code term for evolution and spiritual development. In fact, this is why language exists, to help you and I evolve by tossing up meaning until it is converted into awareness. Without language and the meanings it constructs we are completely incapable of freedom because freedom is dependent on awareness. Alexandra Penney, because she is “condemned to be free,” she is free to be condemned. This means she has choices: the choice to define consciousness through strict and narrow societal strictures and codes, or to define consciousness as a radical meaninglessness from which meaning tentatively asserts itself.

Now, this may seem incredibly ungenerous or worse, (un)credibly realistic. What if Alexandra Penney doesn’t have the awareness to ease her pain vis-à-vis understanding the lack of intrinsic meaning (and, by extension, the lack of inherent existence)? This is perhaps the most important question because it takes James’ point one step further. His point is: “Isn't the point that we begin to get so settled into the impermanent, un-real "ground" we set beneath our own feet that if the ground shakes, it feels as if the entire world is rumbling?” That we lack the ideal and appropriate educational/spiritual and socio-political structures to “begin to get settled into the impermanent” doesn’t mean we’re out of luck. I don’t know if James’ truth is going to get to Alexandra Penney quick enough, but the fact that James is getting it quick enough might be enough, for now. For James and Alexandra are not that far apart. I would say that they’re only a postmodern impulse and a few degrees away from sharing awareness.

Let’s imagine for example, that Andrew Sullivan happens upon James’ post and is struck by its truth because two days ago he had just read page 139 of Mathieu Ricards `The Quantum and the Lotus’ because his lover left it behind because he was in a hurry and forgot that he had to return it to his shrink who recommended it after the lover's last session; and Sullivan, who for some reason, felt a Buddhist nerve piqued in his awareness, decided to post James’ response to Alexandra Penney, whose son’s name is James and so felt drawn to our James’ response; and when she read it was reminded (Oh God, forgive me for this) of `Eat, Pray and Love’ (having been reviewed in Penney’s `Self’ magazine) which is a sensation in Oprah Winfrey circles and who Alexandra Penney was just watching because her client was sick and couldn’t show; and something just clicked in such a way (and many other ways) that comforted her. No, it didn’t transform her, it comforted her. But, that was enough, for now. James, in his compassion, reached Alexandra Penney, as well as Andrew Sullivan. And now the (James’) word is getting out. Ignorant attachment is out and emptiness is in. And so, Alexandra Penney learned something from this unfortunate event; and if she was open to it, I am sure there is plenty for others to learn from it, too.

OM ON THE RANGE BUT NOT YET OUT OF RANGE

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Sun, 12/21/2008 - 2:04pm.

Om, I loved your response to James regarding his post to Andrew Sullivan. Since we’re talking about Om on the range, let me om in on a couple of points. I’d like to discuss further the idea of awareness and its relationship to responsibility. Clearly, the more aware we are, the more we’re able to respond, but we’re able to respond in ways general and unique to the relationship responsibility refers to. I’m thinking of one of the misnomers of existentialism as a champion for selfishness (in today’s nomenclature, narcissist). The adversaries of existentialism seem to equate existentialism’s emphasis on subjectivism (and by extension, responsibility) with narcissistic self-indulgence and disregard for others (the sensationalized application of nihilism, which existentialism does not advocate). As Sartre (in `Existentialism as a Humanism’) made clear (italics mine),

“Subjectivism means, on the one hand, the freedom of the individual subject and, on the other, that man cannot pass beyond human subjectivity. It is the latter which is the deeper meaning of existentialism. When we say that man chooses himself, we do mean that every one of us must choose himself; but by that we also mean that in choosing for himself he chooses for all men. For in effect, of all the actions a man may take in order to create himself as he wills to be, there is not one which is not creative, at the same time, of an image of man such as he believes he ought to be. To choose between this or that is at the same time to affirm the value of that which is chosen; for we are unable ever to choose the worse. What we choose is always the better; and nothing can be better for us unless it is better for all. If, moreover, existence precedes essence and we will to exist at the same time as we fashion our image, that image is valid for all and for the entire epoch in which we find ourselves. Our responsibility is thus much greater than we had supposed, for it concerns mankind as a whole.... I am thus responsible for myself and for all men, and I am creating a certain image of man as I would have him to be. In fashioning myself I fashion man.”

Do I hear Buddhism here? What’s particularly interesting about Alexandra Penney’s story is the feeling of self-containment it conveys; that is, her great personal loss notwithstanding, she’s experiencing it as only her loss. Which, of course, is particularly revealed in her suicidal ideations. Let’s say that she was serious about suicide. Do you not have children and friends and are you not responsible to these relationships? Is this the message you would like to send out to others as a role model of your community (are not we all?)? I’m not suggesting perfection here, for that would be another form of narcissism. I’m talking about responsibility and its relationship with interconnectedness and awareness, what James refers to as the “impermanent, un-real "ground" we set beneath our own feet (I would modify it to “beneath our own and everyone’s feet).

Which leads me now to briefly extend Sartre’s perspective to cover the essence of subjectivism (which, by extension, covers awareness and responsibility), which is, intersubjectivity (our old friend!). There are two things we must understand when talking about intersubjectivity, the relational space of shared meanings: knowing and feeling. Awareness always involves knowing and knowing must always involve feeling if it is to realize the ultimate nature of reality. And feeling, as far as I’m concerned, is not only at the root of all forms of knowing, it is the essence of responsibility. Thus, again, if we assume that feeling is at the root of all forms of knowing (and, in fact, at the core of how the universe both creates and knows itself), then mind would be that aspect of consciousness that intentionally attempts to integrate participatory or engaged feeling with reason, in such a way, as to create a radical knowing, knowing that feels thinking (as opposed to thinking thoughts). To feel thinking, however, requires a certain kind of awareness, an awareness of relationship as the fundamental ground of reality.

Contrary to the belief that relationship grows out of the individual, the truth is that the individual emerges out of relationship. Observing an infant and mother certainly verifies this. And so, mind must be viewed not so much as this entity representing “intellectual development,” but as an activity of consciousness within an intersubjective field of awareness-seeking vis-à-vis deepening feeling (which means deepening thinking). If you think about it, to deepen means to increase perspective; and so, deepening thinking means gaining greater and greater perspective (taken to its philosophical end, this is Buddhism’s ultimate nature of reality, which is emptiness, that all phenomena lack inherent existence).

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GINSBERG: Very much so.

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GINSBERG: Yes, but after.

LOFTON: I want to ask you about this psychiatric disability.

GINSBERG: No, no, no. no, no, no, no, no. Sir, first of all your tone is too aggressive. You have to soften your tone, because there’s an element of aggression here. There’s an element almost like a police interrogation here.

LOFTON: But that’s not all bad. The police, in some instances, do a good job, particularly in dealing with criminals.

GINSBERG: Sir, in this case it’s a little impolite. You’re being a little harsh and unfriendly and making it very difficult for me to relate to you gently and talk unguardedly and candidly.

LOFTON: There’s no doubt that from what I’ve read about you, I don’t like what you have stood for over the years. I don’t like your politics, the kind of sex you engage in. So if you mean there’s a hostility here toward what you are, absolutely there is.

GINSBERG: But you’re talking to me as if I’m an object of some kind and not a person in front of you, I’m asking you, in a sense, to watch your manners.

LOFTON: That’s interesting, because I’m not asking you to respond in any particular way. Why are you telling me how to ask questions? So, can we return to my question? What was this psychiatric disability that put you in an institute for eight months?

GINSBERG: Well, I’m not sure it really was a disability to begin with. So I can’t answer the question the way you pose it.

LOFTON: But I’m asking you if it’s true, that you had this disability?

GINSBERG: It’s neither true nor not true.

LOFTON: But it is true that you were in an institute?

GINSBERG: Yes, I was. I had a kind of visionary experience relating to a text by William Blake, “The Sick Rose.” It went: “O rose, thou art sick! / The invisible worm / That flies in the night / In the howling storm, / Has found out thy bed / Of crimson joy, / And his dark secret love / Does thy life destroy.” So, it’s a very mysterious, interesting poem that keyed off a kind of religious experience, a visionary experience, a hallucinatory experience—whichever way you want to interpret it. All three descriptions are applicable and possible. Reality has many aspects.

LOFTON: Were you using drugs while you masturbated and had this experience?

GINSBERG: Not at all. I had been living very quietly, eating vegetarian diets, seeing very few people, and reading a great many religious texts: St. John of the Cross, the Bible, Plato’s Phaedrus , St. Teresa of Avila, and Blake, So I was In a kind of solitary, contemplative mood.

LOFTON: Did you put yourself into this institute?

GINSBERG: More or less. Because I questioned my own sense of reality and I couldn’t figure out the significance of the illuminative experience, whether it was a kind of traditional religious experience, where there is a sudden sense of vastness and ancientness and respect and devotional awareness or sacredness to the whole universe. Or whether this was a byproduct of some lack-love longing and projection of my own feelings, or some nutty breakthrough.

LOFTON: Do you think you were better when you got out of there?

GINSBERG: I think they said I wasn’t ever really psychotic or crazy, just an average neurotic.

LOFTON: Did you go to anywhere else besides this institute?

GINSBERG: Oh, later—I’m going to a psychiatrist now.

LOFTON: I assume you’re going to a secular humanist-type psychiatrist.

GINSBERG: I never inquired about her religious beliefs.

LOFTON: Really? So you’re going to someone whose religious beliefs, whose presuppositions, you know nothing about?

GINSBERG: I know some, through body language and the response to the immediate situation in front of me, which is what I am really interested in, rather than, say, this conversation. I’m dealing with you in terms of how you display yourself here, not the history of your thoughts. I’m trying to deal with the evidence or manifestation of how you present yourself here—your harshness, aggression, and insistency and—

LOFTON: Why not call it my perseverance? Isn’t that a nicer word? Or guts? Or tenacity?

GINSBERG: I would say there is a little element of S&M in your approach. Power.

LOFTON: No. I would say this is more like the kind of sex you like.

GINSBERG: And I would say this is the kind of power relationship you like, judging from your behavior.

LOFTON: Well, that’s certainly what S&M is all about—power.

GINSBERG: And you seem to like that don’t you? Have your sexual fantasies ever involved that kind of power relationship?

LOFTON: No, not to my knowledge, I’m a Christian. So I don’t fantasize.

GINSBERG: Do you ever have sexual fantasies?

LOFTON: No.

GINSBERG: None at all?

LOFTON: No, I said I am a Christian.

GINSBERG: You’ve never had any sexual fantasies!

LOFTON: Before I was a Christian, I had them, absolutely.

GINSBERG: And since you’re a Christian you don’t?

LOFTON: No.

GINSBERG: And when you had them, did they involve any dominance/submission fantasies!

LOFTON: Mine were pretty orthodox heterosexual kinds of fantasies. But there’s no doubt they were bad. And I am so glad that Jesus Christ delivered me from them.

GINSBERG: You have no erotic dreams now, at all, that you remember!

LOFTON: None that don’t feature my wife, no.

GINSBERG: Yeah.

LOFTON: It’s an amazing thing what Jesus can do for a person.

GINSBERG: Uh-huh.

LOFTON: Let’s talk about some of your feelings over the years and see if they should be respected. In 1978, when you were on a Boston TV show, you shared your sexual preference for “young boys,” and this caused an instant irate reaction from mothers who had children home on vacation from school. Is it true that you have a sexual preference for “young boys”?

GINSBERG: No, no, no. It’s not accurate in the context of the broadcast.

LOFTON: Did you say you had a sexual preference for young boys?

GINSBERG: We’re not on trial here. I’m trying to explain.

LOFTON: But in a way, we’re all on trial.

GINSBERG: Well, then you must excuse me if I don’t adopt the submissive attitude you wish. I got on the air and said that when I was young I was approached by an older man and I don’t think it did me any harm. And that I like younger boys and I think that probably almost everybody has an inclination that is erotic toward younger people, including younger boys.

LOFTON: How young were the boys?

GINSBERG: In my case, I’d say fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen.

LOFTON: That you had sex with?

GINSBERG: No, unfortunately I haven’t had the chance. [laughs] No, I’m talking about my desires. I’m being frank and candid. And I’m also saying that if anyone was frank and candid, you’d probably find that in anybody’s breast.

LOFTON: But why? Why do you persist in imputing your own rottenness to other people?

GINSBERG: One moment. Your question is: Why do I persist in imputing my own rottenness to other people?

LOFTON: That’s right.

GINSBERG: You realize that you’re using language that could he considered insulting.

LOFTON: I hope so. I think it’s a rotten preference to want to have sex with young boys. And I don’t think it’s true that most people want to have sex with younger people.

GINSBERG: I didn’t say that. You’re putting words in my mouth. What I said was that most people have erotic desires for young people.

LOFTON: You mean a fantasy they don’t want to act on?

GINSBERG: Most don’t act on it. Of course not. But most people have in their breasts an erotic pleasure for younger people. This is a part of the general spectrum of human charm and emotion rather than sin or rottenness.

LOFTON: Do you now have a desire to have sex with young boys?

GINSBERG: I have a sexual desire for them, I must say, yes.

LOFTON: Still?

GINSBERG: Oh, the older I get, the more.

LOFTON: And after years of therapy, too. This therapy must really be doing a good job.

GINSBERG: You know what the therapy does?

LOFTON: It probably tells you it’s fine, just get comfortable with it right?

GINSBERG: No, not quite. Usually it’s a discussion of where this comes from and trying to find the origin of it. And find what conditioning affected me that I arrived at this particular orientation. That’s all.

LOFTON: How about sin? Is it a possibility that you are a sinner?

GINSBERG: That doesn’t come into play. The attempt is to understand the situation, not categorize it with knee-jerk words like sin.

LOFTON: But this sexual preference for young boys doesn’t seem to be something you want to be delivered from. You smile when you talk about it. You don’t want to he cured of this, do you?

GINSBERG: I should say my sexual preference is not just for boys, but also for middle-aged men, straight men, and women. I’ve occasionally had fantasies about making out with trucks as well as beasts. And maybe I’ll be making out with you, before it’s all over. [laughs]

LOFTON: Well. maybe I could drive that truck while you make out with it, perhaps an eighteen wheeler, with the pedal to the metal.

GINSBERG: Now there’s your fantasy. [laughs]

LOFTON: Excuse me. but you raised the idea of having sex with a truck.

GINSBERG: You extended it.

LOFTON: I’m just trying to accommodate you. I even offered to drive the truck. And you attacked me. But to hell with you. I won’t drive the truck. Get your own truck.

GINSBERG: Oh, you can’t get out of it that easily. You’ve already driven the truck in my mind. Gosh, you’re funny. But you’ve got this sort of contentious obsession—God knows what’s underneath all that.

LOFTON: Well, yes, He does know.

GINSBERG: You’ve got to remember that I’m talking on the basis of the experience of remembering my unconscious. And maybe you’re not as aware of what’s going on in your mind as I am about what’s going on in mine. And therefore when you condemn impulses or fantasies that I’m willing to be candid about you may not be so familiar with your own mind as to know that you do contain—

LOFTON: Mr. Ginsberg, the Book of Jeremiah says that the human heart is desperately wicked. You don’t have to tell me—a born-again Christian, Calvinist, Reformed, Puritan—about the variety of evil fantasies human beings have. I read the Bible, sir.

GINSBERG: But you don’t read your unconscious, the contents of your mind, very carefully. You don’t remember your dreams, your day-dreams, subliminal thinking.

LOFTON: You know why?

GINSBERG: Why?

LOFTON: Because I’m not like you. You’re a heathen who imagines vain things. You have an overactive imagination, a mental cancer.

GINSBERG: No, it’s not quite like that. Do you know anything about meditation practice?

[At this point Ginsberg offers to show Lofton how to meditate. Lofton agrees but asks Ginsberg if he plans to take off his clothes. Ginsberg says no. They meditate. They resume the interview.]LOFTON: The 1970 Current Biography says that you aren’t a proselytizer for homosexuality. What does that mean?

GINSBERG: I’m observing my own mind and consciousness and reporting on that and trying to be candid. Walt Whitman, who was a very great poet and, incidentally, gay, said he thought that for poets and orators of the future the great quality would be candor, frankness, truthfulness.

LOFTON: Well, Walt Whitman suffered from, if I may say so, what might be called terminal candor—not unlike yourself.

GINSBERG: You don’t like Whitman?

LOFTON: No.

GINSBERG: Have you read Whitman?

LOFTON: Some.

GINSBERG. Do you remember the name of the poem you read?

LOFTON: Yes, one that says something like: “So I make mistakes. I contradict myself. So what? I contain all things,” This is absurd. Talk about arrogance.

GINSBERG: Dig this.

LOFTON: I’m diggin’ it.

GINSBERG: He says: “Do I contradict myself? Very well. I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes,” Do you know what he meant by that?

LOFTON: Probably nothing good. And I doubt if he knew what he meant.

GINSBERG: Yeah, he did. I know what he meant.

LOFTON: How do you know what he meant?

GINSBERG: [laughs] Because I am large. I contain multitudes.

LOFTON. But you might contradict yourself.

GINSBERG: Yes. And I certainly will contradict myself.

LOFTON: This will be one of your multitudes the ability to contradict yourself.

GINSBERG: That’s what Whitman is saying.

LOFTON: It’s gibberish.

GINSBERG: That our own minds are so vast that we can wind up contradicting ourselves without having to freak out about it. It’s very similar to what the poet John Keats said about negative capability. He said the quality of a very great poet like Shakespeare was his ability to contain opposite ideas in the mind without an irritable reaching out after fact and reason. Meaning that that part of the mind which judges, and irritably insists on either black or white, is only a small part of the mind. The larger mind observes the contradiction, and contains those contradictions. The mind that notices that it contradicts itself is bigger than the smaller mind that is taking one side or the other.

LOFTON: You speak very confidently about this. Where do you get your ideas about what the mind is?

GINSBERG: By direct observation through meditation practice.

LOFTON: But at most this would tell you only about your mind, wouldn’t it? You were making statements about the mind.

GINSBERG: I should say I noticed this about my mind and John Keats noticed it about his mind. Sure, you might want to check our which side is right but when you get irritable about it and insist on one or the other, black or white, it’s likely you’ll eliminate some information from both sides.

LOFTON: Is nothing black-and-white?

GINSBERG: Nothing is completely black-and-white. Nothing.

JAMES AND NOAH’S CACTUS JUICE PARTY

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Sat, 12/20/2008 - 9:14pm.

James and Noah, what a delicious interview, indeed. I’ve read through the interview pretty thoroughly and condensed what resonated most for me (Noah, after reading this entire post, I’d like you to compare and comment on the Franklin Merrell-Wolff observations I refer to). Here it is:

Noah (on his experience with “medicinal/mystical cactus” juice)-- “There was a sense of opening; everything took on the quality of infinity…. at the same time there was also the world of myself… and that self was very afraid. That self was stuck in this body…. So I am there and I realize that I can't get rid of this fear that is keeping me from embracing Freedom; I realize that I am carrying trauma. I don't even know what it is, this pain and suffering in the memory of all my cells, in every part of me, but it feels like the defining quality of this self that i think I am. And then I know, really know, that the fear is actually a memory of pain, a pain in all my body and mind. …My body knew how to move around and stuff, but I didn't understand how to use it. I was very attached to wanting to control everything. That was part of the pain, because the experience was so open, and the pain was against all of that…. I was consumed by fear (= pain)…. that's exactly what the plant opens you to. And I felt that something had traumatized me, my body, my mind, my self, in the past. I wasn't sure whether it was my own, or something more universal, or both, but it was almost what "I" was…. And I understood somehow why it [iconography] existed, that what I was experiencing was, though specific to me, part of this universal human struggle and all those symbols were there to help me bridge the gap between the suffering and fear in my self, and the boundless….I spent most of the time feeling sad that the door was open and I couldn't step through. But yes: the plant, or the drug or whatever, it's like it quiets the part of your mind that keeps it all out, the part that restricts and codifies everything as separate and isolated by time and space, and the hugeness of being just offers itself to you, and you have to deal with that…. [[J: It sounds it. I also imagine that one can't merely attribute this experience to the plant, but also – despite the fact that you were mostly suffering, and despite the fleeting nature of the experience – to your own openness to the nature of things, and to the depths of fear limiting you from recognizing it.]] …. Oh sure, the plant only sort of interacts with whatever you are bringing into it. “

In addition to having similar experiences (without the cool aid :0 which are perhaps better described as recognitions) and reading about this experience many times (Noah, your description of this Samadhi-like experience is so open and fragrant with insight and love), I’ve referred on the blog to similar descriptions by the philosopher and mystic, Franklin Merrell-Wolff, particularly in his `Consciousness Without an Object'. But before I share more about Wolff, Noah’s experience underscores the only way to true wisdom, and that’s through direct experience. This is also highlighted in Ginsberg’s interview with Lofton (which I posted). Ginsberg says (italics mine),

“That our own minds are so vast that we can wind up contradicting ourselves without having to freak out about it. It’s very similar to what the poet John Keats said about negative capability. He said the quality of a very great poet like Shakespeare was his ability to contain opposite ideas in the mind without an irritable reaching out after fact and reason. Meaning that that part of the mind which judges, and irritably insists on either black or white, is only a small part of the mind. The larger mind observes the contradiction, and contains those contradictions. The mind that notices that it contradicts itself is bigger than the smaller mind that is taking one side or the other.

LOFTON: You speak very confidently about this. Where do you get your ideas about what the mind is?

GINSBERG: By direct observation through meditation practice.

LOFTON: But at most this would tell you only about your mind, wouldn’t it? You were making statements about the mind.

GINSBERG: I should say I noticed this about my mind and John Keats noticed it about his mind. Sure, you might want to check our which side is right but when you get irritable about it and insist on one or the other, black or white, it’s likely you’ll eliminate some information from both sides.”

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Now, I’d like to compare Wolff’s descriptions (in his ` Pathways Through To Space’) of his spiritual ralization to Noah’s:

“One day after the evening meal… I passed into a very delightful state of contemplation. … My breath changed, but not in the sense of stopping or becoming extremely slow or rapid. It was, perhaps, just a little slower than normal. The notable change was in a subtle quality associated with the air breathed. Over and above the physical gases of the air there seemed to be an impalpable substance of indescribable sweetness that, in turn, was associated with a general sense of well being, embracing even the physical man. It was like happiness or joy, but these words are inadequate. It was of a very gentle quality yet far transcended the value of the form of any of the more familiar forms of happiness. It was quite independent of the beauty or comfort of the environment. At that time the latter was, to say the least, austere and not in any sense attractive. … the air was far from invigorating due to the period being exceptionally warm. However, introspective analysis revealed the fact that the elixir-like quality was most marked during exhalation, thus indicating that it was not derived from normal air. Further, the exhaled breath was not simply air expelled into the outer atmosphere, but seemed to penetrate down through the whole organism like a gentle caress, leaving throughout a quiet sense of delight. It seemed to me like nectar. Since that time I have learned it is the true Ambrosia.”

Outside of drug-induced peak spiritual states, these “realizations” don’t just occur with some formative experiences. Wolff’s experiences led him to the insight of how empty space is related to matter. Wolff perceived that so-called empty space was in fact “full and substantial,” while material objects were “a kind of partial vacuum". What this means is that, as one’s senses begin to be capable of perceiving empty space “as the substantial foreground,” physical matter in turn recedes into the background. This recession is tantamount to material objects (indeed, all phenomena) being part of a "dependent or derivative reality". This is what Buddhist philosophy calls emptiness.

Importantly (and Noah describes this), what Buddhism calls “Nirvana” is not "a field, or space, or world which one entered" but rather the seeker becomes "identical with Nirvana and would always be so." These recognitions address both higher cognitive awareness and more highly joyful emotional states. Wolff again after deep meditation:

“I found myself above the universe not in the sense of having left the physical body and being taken out of space but in the sense of being above space, time, and causality. My karma seemed to drop away from me as an individual responsibility. I felt intangibly, yet wonderfully free. I sustained the universe and was not bound by it… I seemed to comprehend a veritable library of knowledge, all less concrete that the most abstract mathematics. The personality rested in a gentle glow of happiness.”

My hope for Noah is that his recognition from his altered peak state (“it quiets the part of your mind that keeps it all out, the part that restricts and codifies everything as separate and isolated by time and space, and the hugeness of being just offers itself to you, and you have to deal with that…”.) inspires him to continue meditation which, over prolonged periods, achieves the same effects, yet with the added benefit of a peak temporary state transformed into an enduring nondual trait of awareness.

THERE IS AN ANGEL IN MY POCKET

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Sun, 12/21/2008 - 8:20pm.

Yesterday I received an email from a friend along with an excerpt from Thomas Moore's new book, `A Life at Work: The Joy of Discovering What You Were Born to Do.' I thought I would post it because some of you on the blog often talk about what your vocations might be. Not jobs, but vocations. A vocation has traditional been asociated with a calling, harnessing one's gifts in a meaningful way to participate in the world. Ultimately, one's vocation is consistent with one's psychological and spiritual development. I love the term. Following is an excerpt from Moore's Chapter 2 followed by my response to my friend. Enjoy! (My friend's name is JF)

Chapter two.
"Tells a story about a man who mves from job to job everytime the angel arrives to speak to him. Later in life someone asked him"how did you get to where you are now"? The respone was... "difficult to say." That is becuase his only talent was his openess to the directives coming from the angel whose name meant "the all aware." He had the precious ability to recognize the call to move on and the openess of heart to follow it. This is a story about calling and obedience to the call. At root, obedience means "listening." To find your way, you have to pay close attention to the signs about when to change your job, when to get unstuck and re enter the flow of life, and when to retire to a life of healing and teaching, The angel does represent something that is real fo all of us: a sense of destiny, vocation and direction. Vocation comes from the latin work vox, voice. A vocation is a call. Why would a sense of direction in life be called a vocation? Or is there something natural about the capacity of life to "speak" to us and give us hints about where to go? The question is not so much does the world give us direction; but are we able to read the world for its information? we tend to look at the surface of events and deal with them practically. An alternative is to see the events as symbols, images and signs." -- Thomas Moore

An angel is a messenger. Since man created God, the angel ultimately serves as man’s messenger to his higher self. And thus, we can also see the angel as our own wisdom seeking answers to life’s most profound questions. Unsurprisingly, the most profound (deep and vast and beyond the limits of human knowledge) questions about life are also questions about “self.” At our most evolved state of understanding, we find that the God we have pointed to since time immemorial is in fact our higher consciousness. And so, when the angel arrives, it is our own arrival, our own “showing up” to embrace what has been in front of us all along. This is what I call readiness. Readiness means reaching the psychological point of understanding, self-acceptance and self-love so that judgment, shame and anger no longer obscure our need for happiness and recognition. Contrary to Moore’s perspective, the answer to “how did you get to where you are?” is not difficult to say. J F knows exactly how he got to where he is, and when he gets unstuck, he’ll tell you exactly why.

One thing that J F will tell you is his openness is a special kind of openness. It is a psychological openness to the workings of his psyche or soul. He will tell you that the directives at first appeared to come from his friend OM but then over time he realized that OM merely provided a unique kind of language from which to listen more carefully to the guidance of F's own higher awareness, which necessarily seeks higher understanding and joy, for these are the natural state of the soul.

This openness is indeed a “call to move on” because it is a call to move in, inward to where understanding is sown like a seed awaiting the flower or tree it will become. And F knows that the only way to truly move is from the inside out. This is the art of listening and the essence of obedience: we obey our wisdom and stay mindful of its vibrations, its calling. Over time it will become our favorite song and we will learn it by heart.

We are talking about a job, but the truth is, we can be talking about any activity of importance in our life. It’s true that vocation is a very special type of calling because we spend so much time doing it and it is our connection to the larger community. When we talk about direction, we merely mean how our minds are oriented to reach the light of our purpose and meaning in this life. We are flowers leaning toward the sun seeking from it nourishment. In the same way, we engage at work as if it is feeding our need for nourishment. And it is, because that nourishment is meaning. Meaning is a pointer and so a direction to help us achieve what is most important to us as individuals. There is no intrinsic standard of what is meaningful. What is meaningful to one individual is meaningless to another. This is why we have to create our own meanings. Whether we are sweeping the street, raising flowers, driving a bus, or treating patients, it doesn’t matter as long as we find joy in the process and use the experience to deepen our understanding about ourselves and life.

The practical should not be underestimated because there is no depth without surface and there is no surface without depth. The problem is when one doesn’t see the depth and is thus condemned to the dissatisfaction and unending search for superficial happiness. What we have in terms of material goods is only valuable for a relatively brief period, because it could never address and sustain our deeper needs for self-awareness, self-recognition and love. To that end, it doesn’t matter what we do, it only matters who we are. And J F knows this.

Happy Holidays

Submitted by Megan on Thu, 12/25/2008 - 8:35am.

Happy holidays everyone

yeah, happy holidays Megan

Submitted by nico lime (not verified) on Thu, 12/25/2008 - 12:30pm.

yeah, happy holidays Megan and everyone else.

ラルフローレン

Submitted by polo0444 on Tue, 04/10/2012 - 3:52am.

大阪市の元幹部７人が、関西電力設立翌年の１９５２年から、グッチバッグ同社の監査役（非常勤）に再就職していたことが分かった。東京電力福島第１原発事故後の昨年６月にも就任していた。複数の元幹部は、グッチバッグ市幹部を通じて関電側から打診を受けたと証言。市は関電の筆頭株主で、橋下徹市長は全原発の廃止や天下り禁止などの株主提案をする方針を固めている。こうした中、市ＯＢが関電から継続的にポストを提供されることの是非が問われそうだ。

　有価証券報告書や関係者の証言によると、グッチバッグ７人は市の助役や収入役、財政局長の経験者。市を退職後、市の外郭団体幹部を経るケースもある。再就職は７９年に中断したが８７年に再開、現在も続いている。現在の任期は４年で、多い月で取締役会などに４回程度出席。関電によると、１０年度は市ＯＢを含む社外監査役４人に計３３００万円の報酬を支払った。

ラルフローレン

Submitted by polo0444 on Tue, 04/10/2012 - 3:57am.

Is anyone out there?

Submitted by Megan on Tue, 12/30/2008 - 10:13am.

I am so bored I feel like my mind is turning inside out and into a big blob of grey mush! Any usable words, content slowly pokes it's head and then melts into the grey matter. Funny how many times you wish you had nothing to do, to do what you want and yet when you have all the time in the world it is painstakingly boring! I’ve come to learn to really enjoy time by myself and embrace the time to read, write, meditate and hang out, but sometimes I really need real conversations, physical contact. I can’t take ‘me’ time anymore and am in dire need of human contact! The last month and a half my job and workload has come to a halting standstill. Everyone has closed shop for the holidays early and they are still gone on this ever lingering long respite, lingering, lingering….. I went in yesterday searching for some stimulation, change of scenery, new faces, something to spark my brain. I found a quiet and dull office and only four colleagues watching youtube and sharing stories about their holidays. I quickly though of how excited I was the night before, ready to go back to the office on Monday morning, desperate for real conversation, and ready for any project, even a boring one like combing through some budget items. I needed the stimulation desperately and no one was there. And I sat face to face with my boredom. Nothing seems to make up for the minutes ticking by one by one, with nothing to do! I read some stories online, poked around on other sites, cleaned out my inbox, this boredom it is painful! I went to get a pedicure and realized I was able to fill 15 more minutes but my mind grew weary that another day was just slowly passing by. Any other year I would be rejoicing, lounging on the couch, taking long naps, but I’ve had a whole month and a half to take it easy and I need to do something! Last night I came up with a plan to finally tackle five boxes of old papers and files that need to be disregarded, organized and sorted through, but I've woken without the motivation to do this, even this task seems so mundane. I wonder if I jump on a plane today can I be somewhere warm by sunset? I’m getting a cold, and I guess I'll go lay back down so this cold can work it's way out of my system as my trusted doctor is away in Hawaii. In the meantime I’m wondering if anyone is still out there? How are you all doing? How are you all feeling? Are you suffering from boredom as well?

ART AND THE EVOLUTION OF CONSCIOUSNESS: CARAVAGGIO AND LIGHT

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Tue, 12/30/2008 - 11:34am.

Journal Entry: Art and the Evolution of Consciousness: Caravaggio and Light in the Birth of Rationalism

When I found out Caravaggio was at the Met, I went back to my journals in Florence from 2002 which reflected my long-term interest in hermeneutics and evolutionary theory:

A question I raise is this: Would the genius revealed in pre- and Renaissance Florentine art and architecture have evolved without the powerful motivation of salvation, as defined by Christianity (and I would be asking the same of any religion)? Or could we substitute Christianity with another metaphorical leitmotif and see the same results--different content, same results? If so, then we can begin to find a kind of psychological perspectivism that could serve as a powerful interpretive tool, not so much for culture, but for individual spiritual seeking.

What do I mean by this statement? Well, to answer this we must begin with the objective of spiritual seeking in the individual. Following the developmental process of structuring the self, the self must then begin, through a contemplative process, i.e., meditation, to be dissolved. As part of the dissolution process, knowledge begins to reveal its limitations, because language begins to reveal its limitations, and as many now have realized, language IS phenomenological reality; thus, phenomenological reality is realized as illusory, that is, impermanent and ever-changing.

Why this is important in the context of Christian Florence and its abundance of artistic treasures and architectural genius (and its unimaginable influence on art and architecture to this day) is that the achievements themselves have, in my opinion, become mistaken for Christianity itself; that is, Christianity and the Christ myth have been further validated and strengthened by the artistic achievements that Christianity inspired. Inspiration is not the content (text) it represents, but the psychological and spiritual motivation (context) to express what is so deeply felt within one's being. Inspiration is subjectivity revealing itself at its highest levels using the object(s) to draw out its spiritual breath. Inspiration is Spirit revealing Itself, but it is the self, not the object of inspiration that is closer to the Real. Any object or system of images cohered to create a narrative, community, or institution (when politicized, such as Christianity) necessarily diminishes and ultimately obviates spiritual realization because it reduces Spirit to the concrete symbol (i.e., it conflates the space between symbol and symbolized). This is dangerous because it lends itself to manipulation, domination, and hegemony. In the case of Christianity (and through extension, Florence), patriarchal rule. Where there is patriarchal rule, there is loss of freedom, and where there is loss of freedom, there is violence and oppression, and degeneration of the entire evolutionary process.
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One night God led Abraham out of his tent and said, "Look at the heavens and count the stars if you can." And God told the still childless man, " That is how many descendents you shall have." The art and architecture of Florence are the stars from which one can contemplate on, and realize the deepest beauty that emanates through the souls of human beings. Yet, it is not art alone that reveals Florence's beauty. Perhaps it is how Art is linked to the natural world around it and, in fact, accentuates the Tuscan world, invites us to become more mindful of the transcendent quality of nature, this nature that speaks to color, depth, and light. The Florentine city and Tuscany surround are the pictorial representations of Spirit that so easily allow the Christian myth to find its home here, because at the heart of the Christian myth is the Trinity: The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which symbolize at its deepest level Consciousness manifested through the beauty of creation, and the beauty of the created, and the ground of Creativity Itself—Logos.

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And now I’m back with Caravaggio two years later and still reflecting on evolutionary theory as it pertains to consciousness. Caravaggio was part of an increasing “center of social gravity” that reflected a major evolutionary shift from a mythic to rational worldview (basic organizing principle) leading into the Enlightenment (Age of Reason) and crystallizing in what we call modernity. The key: Reason (what Piaget described as formal operational thought). Reason replaced God—and myth (what Nietzsche meant by his famous quip “God is dead”) as an orienting cultural worldspace, and ego (self) identity replaced role identity (which does not mean we “lose” myth or roles, for myth and role—the lower is included in the higher—are still part of the complex of the evolutionary process). This shift was evidenced across cultural systems from science to politics (including morality) to art. In politics, for example, there was an emerging emphasis on equal rights, moral freedom, and increased democratization. All as part of a transformed “average mode of consciousness.”

Though reason means that there’s an increase of interior depth, modernity (the larger movement) never adequately integrated science, art, and morality, and we have been left with a “flatland” monological system of representation and production. That, however, is the downside of this evolutionary leap, and I’ll leave it for another discussion. Following is Wilber’s list of seven overriding characteristics of formal operational awareness, or reason, though in this journal entry I want to focus on one sphere of reality reflected in evolution, art, and, specifically, perspectivism:

1) Reason is deductive, or empirical (“a shallower context gave way to a deeper disclosure”); 2) it is reflexive and introspective; 3) it grasps multiple perspectives; 4) there is a shift from ego identity from role identity; 5) it is relational; 6) it is nonanthropocentric; and 7) it brings a new space of deeper feeling and greater passion.

In Renaissance art, according to Jean Gebser, the principal concern was perspective, which had the effect of “expanding the world image.” Space took on a whole new meaning and “an entirely new spatial consciousness was beginning to break out of the soul into the world.” What an amazing thought! Particularly in its larger context of the individual’s place in the world. Think of these new evolving themes: autonomy (agency), pluralism (hermeneutics), psychology (subjectivity). You can already see the seeds of Vico’s project here. Hermeneutics was about to be unleashed!

Following is an 1997 article (in its entirety) by Ken Wilber on perspectivism in art. It’s worth the time reading.

We do not live in a pregiven world. One of the more remarkable tenets of the postmodern revolution in philosophy, psychology, and sociology is that different worldviews exist -- different ways of categorizing, presenting, representing, and organizing our experiences. There is not a single, monolithic world with a single, privileged representation, but rather multiple worlds with pluralistic interpretations. Moreover, these worldviews often -- indeed, almost always -- change from epoch to epoch, and from culture to culture.

This insight need not be taken to extremes -- there are plenty of common features in our various interpretations to prevent the world from falling apart. Indeed, scholars have discovered there are at least some (and often many) universals in languages, in affects, in cognitive structures, and in color perception, to name a few. But these universal ingredients are woven together and organized in a rich variety of ways, resulting in a tapestry of multiple worldviews.

Although there are, in theory, an almost infinite number of worldviews, in the course of human history on this planet, there seem to be about a dozen that have had, or are still having, a widespread and significant influence. Investigated by scholars such as Jean Gebser, Gerald Heard, Jurgen Habermas, Michel Foucault, Robert Bellah, Peter Berger and others, these major worldviews include: sensorimotor, archaic, magic, mythic, mental, existential, psychic, subtle, causal, and nondual. (The exact meaning of those terms will become more obvious as we proceed.)

It is not a matter of which of these worldviews is right and which is wrong; they are all adequate for their time and place. It is more a matter of simply cataloging, as carefully as possible, the very general characteristics that define each worldview, and “bracketing” (or setting aside), for the moment, whether or not they are “true” -- we simply describe all of them as if they were true.

The magicanimistic worldview, for example, is marked by a partial overlap of subject and object, so that “inanimate objects” like rocks and rivers are directly felt to be alive or even to possess souls or subjective spirits. The mythic worldview is marked by a plethora of gods and goddesses, not as abstract entities but as deeply felt powers, each having a rather direct hand in the affairs of earthly men and women. The mental worldview -- of which the “rational worldview” is the best known subset -- is marked by a belief that the subjective realm is fundamentally set apart from the objective realm of nature, and how to relate these two realms becomes one of the most pressing problems in this worldview. The existential worldview possesses an understanding that multiple perspectives are built into the universe, so that not only are there no privileged perspectives, individuals must carve for themselves some sort of meaning from that frightening multitude of possibilities. The subtle worldview is marked by an apprehension of subtle forms and transcendental archetypes, primordial patterns of manifestation which are usually felt (and claimed) to be Divine. The causal worldview is marked by the direct realization of a vast unmanifest realm -- variously known as emptiness, cessation, the Abyss, the Unborn, Ayin, the Ursprung -- a vast Formlessness from which all manifestation springs. And the nondual represents a radical union of the Formless with the entire world of Form.

Those various worldviews present a truly dizzying array of the many ways that our experiences can be organized and interpreted. Those are by no means the only worldviews, nor is the list fixed or predetermined -- it is constantly unfolding with new possibilities. But without some sort of worldview, we remain lost in the blooming buzzing confusion of experience, as William James put it.

In other words, all of our individual perceptions are, to some extent, embedded in particular worldviews. Within those worldviews, we still possess abundant freedom of choice; but worldviews generally constrain what we will even consider choosing. We moderns do not, for example, often get out of bed with the thought, “Time to kill the bear.” Each worldview, with its distinctive characteristics, stamps itself all over those born within it, and most individuals do not know, or even suspect, that their perceptions are occurring within the horizons of a given and rather specific worldview. Each worldview, operating for the most part collectively and unconsciously, simply presents the world as if it were the case. Few question the worldview in which they find themselves, just a fish is unaware it is wet.

Nonetheless -- and here the story takes a decidedly fascinating turn -- research in both individual psychology and cross-cultural anthropology demonstrates rather convincingly that, under various circumstances, individuals have available to them the entire spectrum of worldviews. The human mind, it appears, comes with all of these worldviews -- archaic to magic to mythic to mental to subtle to causal -- as potentials in its own makeup, ready to unfold when various factors conspire to allow them to do so, rather like a seed awaiting water, soil, and sun to unfold.

So, even though certain epochs were especially marked by a particular worldview -- foraging, by magic; agrarian, by mythic; and industrial, by mental rational, for example -- nonetheless, all of these major modes of interpreting our experience seem to be potentials of the human organism, and any of them can be brought forth in any individual under the right circumstances. To the question, “Which worldviews are available to us now?,” the answer appears to be, “All of them.”

Still, at any given time, and in any given culture, most adults tend to inhabit the landscape of one particular worldview. The reason is simple enough: each worldview is, indeed, a person’s world. To lose that world is to experience a type of death seizure. To surrender a worldview is a psychological earthquake somewhere around 7.0 on the internal Richter scale, and most people avoid this at all costs.

But sometimes, under exceptional circumstances... or in exceptional artists... higher or deeper worldviews break through the crust of our ordinary perceptions, and the world is somehow never quite the same again.

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Artists express worldviews. Paleolithic artists, for example, painted the magical worldspace -- objects overlapping each other, little perspectivism, animistic symbols, few constraints of space and time, wholes interchangeable with their parts. Medieval artists painted the mythic worldspace -- an entire pantheon of angels, archangels, a God, a Son of that God, the Mother of that God, Moses parting the Red Sea -- the themes were the endless possibilities of the mythic worldspace, all depicted, not as symbols, but as realities (precisely because, as we saw, all worldviews present themselves as simply true). With the rise of the very general movement of Modernity in the West -- riding as it did on the mental worldview, with its separation of subjective mind from objective nature -- we see a gradual replacement of mythic themes with themes dominated by nature, by realism, by impressionism, by subjective expressionism, and by abstract expressionism. And with the general rise of Postmodernism, we see those trends carried even further into the existential worldspace, where multiple perspectives, at first a source of endless creativity, soon became a paralyzing nightmare of infinite jest, met with infinite irony.

The existential worldview is called “integral aperspectival” by Gebser -- “aperspectival” because it presents multiple perspectives, none of which are privileged; and “integral” because nonetheless some sort of unity, coherence, or meaning has to be fashioned in the midst of multiplicity. In the previous worldview -- the mental rational, which Gebser also called “perspectival” -- the single, rational subject tended to take up a single, fixed interpretation of the world, and this was evidenced in everything from science (Newton) to philosophy (Descartes) to portraiture (van Eyck) to perspectivism (starting with Renaissance painting, especially Brunelleschi, Alberti, Donatello, Leonardo, Giotto). But with the shift to integral aperspectival, the subject itself becomes part of the objective scene -- the camera becomes part of the movie, the author’s stream of thought becomes part of the novel, the painter’s own operations show up conspicuously on the canvas. Multiple perspectives draw the subject into the world of objects, making it one object among many others, all lost in a dizzying regress of self-reflexivity, from which there is no escape.

Every worldview has its pathological expressions. The rational worldview’s most notorious is “Cartesian dualism” -- subject split from object, mind divorced from nature -- a dualism against which, it seems, every thinking person of the last three hundred years has vocally declared war. But the postmodern, integralaperspectival stance is not without its own major aberration, known generally as “aperspectival madness,” the insane view that no view is better than another. Starting with the noble proposition that all of the multiple perspectives are to be treated fairly and impartially (“pluralism and rich diversity”), postmodernism slides, in its extreme forms, into the insidious notion that no perspective whatsoever is better than another, a confusion that results in complete paralysis of will, thought, and action. Madness it is indeed: it claims no view is better than another, except its own view, which is superior in a world where nothing is supposed to be superior at all. And worse: if no view is better than another, then the Nazis and the KKK are on the same moral footing as, say, art critics.

“Aperspectival madness” might fairly well describe much of the last two decades of art, art criticism, lit crit, and cultural studies. Irony is one of the few places you can hide in a world of aperspectival madness -- say one thing, mean another, therefore don’t get caught in the embarrassment of taking a stand. (Since, allegedly, no stand is better than another, one simply must not commit -- sincerity is death). So skip sincerity, opt for sardonic. Don’t construct, deconstruct; don’t look for depth, just hug the surfaces; avoid content, offer noise -- “surfaces, surfaces, surfaces is all they ever found,” as Bret Easton Ellis summarized the scene. No wonder that David Foster Wallace, in a recent essay that received much attention, lamented the pervasiveness of the art of “trendy, sardonic exhaustion” and “reflexive irony,” art that is “sophisticated and extremely shallow.”

But if we do abandon irony and seek to make sincere statements, where do we begin? If we do surrender surfaces and look also for the depths, what exactly does that mean? And where are these “depths” to be found?

Wallace suggests that, instead of “reflexive irony,” art should provide “insights and guides to value.” A fine sentiment, but let us note immediately that specific values exist only in specific worldviews. The mythic worldview, for example, valued duty to a rigid social hierarchy, which few moderns find appealing. The mythic worldview also valued male dominance and female subordination, which most enlightened moderns regard as ignorant. All values exist in particular worldviews, and if trendy sardonic exhaustion is actually the exhaustion of the existential worldview, then the only possible conclusion is that we will have to look to other worldviews altogether if we are to escape aperspectival madness and its relentless insincerity.

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The reason that art in the postmodern, existential world has reached something of a culdesac is not that art itself is exhausted, but that the existential worldview is. Just as rational modernity previously exhausted its forms and gave way to aperspectival postmodernity, so now the postmodern itself is on a morbid death watch, with nothing but infinitely mirrored irony to hold its hand, casting flowers where they will not be missed. The skull of postmodernity grins on the near horizon, and in the meantime, we are between two worldviews, one slowly dying, one not yet born.

Whatever we may think about it -- and volumes have been delivered -- perhaps the best that can be said of the avantgarde is that it always implicitly understood itself to be riding the crest of the breaking wave of evolving worldviews. The avantgarde was the leading edge, the growing tip, of an evolving humanity. It would herald the new, announce the forthcoming. It would first spot, then depict, new ways of seeing, new modes of being, new forms of cognition, new heights or depths of feeling, and in all cases, new modes of perception. It would spot, and depict, the coming worldview, while breaking decisively with the old.

The story is familiar. JacquesLouis David’s art was part of the early rise of modernity (reason and revolution) that violently broke with the remnants of the mythic, aristocratic, hierarchical, rococo past. From neoclassicism to abstract expressionism, each succeeding growing tip became in turn the conventional, accepted norm, only to see its own form challenged by the next avantgarde. Even postmodernism, with its aperspectival madness, which first attempted to deconstruct the avantgarde altogether, intimately depended upon it for something to deconstruct; thus, as Donald Kuspit points out in The Cult of the AvantGarde Artist, a type of “neoavantgarde” art inevitably dogged postmodernism from the start.

Like huge successive waves crashing ashore, worldviews succeed one another, and the avantgarde, at its best, were the great surfers of these waves. And now that the postmodern wave is washing on the shore of its own demise, what new waves are forthcoming? What new worldviews surge from the ocean of the soul to announce a new perception? Where are we to look for the contents of the sincere artistic statements that will supplant irony and aperspectival madness? Standing on tiptoe, looking through the mist, can the vague outline of the face of tomorrow’s art -- and therefore, tomorrow’s world -- even be seen?

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What worldviews, from those available, might carry the contours of tomorrow’s art? Of course, some aspects of the coming landscape will be entirely new and original. “Creative advance into novelty,” according to Whitehead, is the basic feature of the universe. But we also know, from extensive psychological and sociological research, that certain basic features of the dozen or so major worldviews, briefly summarized above, are potentials already available to the human organism, and instead of starting entirely from scratch, nature usually reworks what is at hand, before adding the finishing touches of novelty.

We know the worldviews that have been tried, toiled, worked, and exhausted: archaic, magic, mythic, mentalrational (modern), and existentialaperspectival (postmodern). The postmodern, of course, will continue its major influence for decades to come, on the way to its final resting place. It is simply that artistic productions, as canaries in the cultural mine shaft, are dropping dead in alarming numbers as the rotting gas of postmodernity first starts whiffing down that tunnel. So the art world, more quickly than the sturdier herd mentality, seeks out new horizons; and thus, as we earlier noted, the deadend of today’s art is really the future endgame of the postmodern worldview in general. So what other horizons are available right now?

Three, at least. We already named them: subtle, causal, and nondual. The phenomenologists of worldviews (those who research and describe the contours of available worldviews) describe these three worldviews as being transrational or transpersonal, and they contrast them with the earlier worldviews, some of which are prerational or prepersonal (archaic, magic, and mythic), and some of which are rational or personal (mental and existential). This gives men and women, as potentials in their own organisms, a spectrum of available worldviews, ranging from prerational to rational to transrational, from prepersonal to personal to transpersonal, from subconscious to selfconscious to superconscious. Supposing that we have exhausted the dizzying rhetorical regress of selfreflexivity, there are only two ways to go: back into subconsciousness, or forward into superconsciousness -- back to the infrarational, or beyond to the suprarational.

The distinction is important, because the transrational, transpersonal worldviews are what might be called “spiritual,” yet they bear little relation to the traditional religious worldviews of the magic and mythic spheres. The transrational realms have nothing to do with external gods and goddesses, and everything to do with an interior awareness that plumbs the depths of the psyche. Nothing to do with petitionary prayer and ritual, and everything to do with expanding and clarifying awareness. Nothing to do with dogma and belief, everything to do with cleansing perception. Not everlasting life for the ego, but transcending the ego altogether.

When one exhausts the personal, there is left the transpersonal. There is, right now, simply nowhere else to go.

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Not just different values, but different objects, exist in different worldviews. And artists can paint, depict, or express their particular perceptions of the objects in any of these realms, depending on whether or not they are themselves alive to these realms.

The sensorimotor world is familiar enough -- those objects that can be seen with the senses: rocks, birds, bowls of fruit, nudes, landscapes. Artists can, and doggedly have, painted those objects, in everything from a glaringly realistic fashion to the softer tones of impressionism. The magical worldview is one of plastic displacement and condensation, the world of the dream, full of its own very real objects (when dreaming -- when actually in that worldview -- it appears absolutely real, as all worldviews do). Artists can paint those objects, as the Surrealists, among others, have demonstrated. The mythic worldview is full of gods and goddesses, angels and elves, disembodied souls, figures kind and cruel, helpful and malevolent. Artists can paint those objects, and, indeed, most artists around the world, from 10,000 BCE to 1500 CE, painted nothing but those objects. The mental worldview is crowded with concepts and ideas, rational perspectivism and abstract forms. Artists not only can represent those contents (conceptual art, abstract art), they can express them as well (abstract expressionism). The existential (aperspectival) worldview involves, among other things, the terror of the isolated subject confronting an alien world bereft of mythic consolations and rational pretensions. Artists in every medium have depicted this state of affairs, often over-poweringly (e.g., Edvard Munch, “The Shriek”). But the aperspectival worldview is also, at its limits, a subject looking at itself as it tries to look at the world. Artists have attempted to depict this selfreflexive regress in a variety of ways, from deconstruction to ironic reflexivity to doubling (including the artist as part of the art) -- all a dicey game, all headed eventually for selfstrangulation.

Which leaves the transpersonal worldspaces with their contents, themes, and perceptions. All of these realms are, indeed, transpersonal, which simply means those realities that include, but go beyond, the personal and the individual -- wider currents that sweep across the skinencapsulated ego and touch other beings, touch the cosmos, touch spirit, touch patterns and places kept secret to those who hug the surfaces and surround themselves with themselves.

That these transpersonal worldspaces are available to us as great, potential houses does not mean they come with all the furniture. We supply that ourselves. We build, create, add, model, fashion, mold, bring forth, and compose, and here artists in every medium have traditionally led the way, avantgarde in the best and truest sense. So, on the one hand, we might look to the past for those rare occasions where a subculture plugged into the transpersonal realm and brought it forth in art and architecture, poetry and painting, crafts and compositions -- the influence of Zen on Japanese aesthetics, for example. But we can look to the past only for hints, because the house of our tomorrow can only be decorated by artists standing now on the threshold of that unfolding.

What will these furnishings look like? We are standing now in the open clearing, between two worlds, awaiting exactly that birth. But one thing is certain: it will come from the consciousness of men and women who stand open to the transpersonal in their own case, who bring forth, from the depths of the heart and spirit, those radiant realities that speak to us in unmistakable terms. For one thing we have seen: all of the major worldviews are available as potentials in the human bodymind. The deeper the awareness of individuals, the more worldspaces they can plumb. And that is why ultimately, profoundly, inescapably, it is the depth of the subject that provides the objects of art.

We have seen sensory objects, magic objects, mythic objects, mental objects, and aperspectival objects... and we have seen them all exhaust the play of their own significance. Who will show us now the objects of the transpersonal landscape? Who will open themselves to such depths that they can scale these new heights, and return to tell those of us silently waiting what they have seen? Who can stand so far aside from self and same, ego and shame, hope and fear, that the transpersonal comes pouring through them which such a force it rattles the world? Who will paint what reality looks like when the ego is anaesthetized, when settling into the corpse pose, it dies to its own wonderment and beholds the world anew? Who will paint that rising landscape? Who will show us that?

Thanks Om, Happy New Year

Submitted by Megan on Fri, 01/02/2009 - 11:05am.

Thanks Om, I am enjoying reading this journal entry. It might take me a few more days to finish up and circle back but wanted to say thanks for providing some stimulation and happy new year to you and all our blog friends.

For me 2009 means living from my new center – one of peace, acceptance, love and appreciation for who I really am. That allows the natural talents, skills, curiosity and strength to grow in the absence of the noise and suffering. There is so much to still discover and that is exciting. I know all too well that this practice is difficult and the view and challenges ever changing now that I have quieted the mind and learned to understand the genesis of suffering. But I’m looking forward to that. I’ve also learned recently as seen in my last post that writing and interacting as part of a community helps to keep me grounded and in touch with myself and my feelings and stimulate growth I desire.

I finished reading a book this week I found that was written by my great-great-great grandmother and published in 1933. The book is written in the third person and discusses her life and adventures (as she coins them) during her nomadic life from Ireland-Argentine-Ireland-New York-Texas-Mexico (Many different cities) and shortly in Canada, New York and Europe to conclude her life in Mexico. During that time she had seven children, twenty-nine grandchildren and fifteen great-grandchildren (one of which was my grandmother) for the times she was incredibly progressive, independent, entrepreneurial, good hearted and strong willed. She valued education, service to others, religion and family. She was a tomboy and preferred riding horseback all day, hunting, fishing and swimming to traditional ‘ladies’ activities. She opened free schools and hospitals for the poor in every city she lived in while in Mexico and really lived each day to the fullest.

I enjoyed it very much and I had a realization this morning when a friend asked me if I’d recognized any qualities of hers in myself. That not only did I recognize a lot of her qualities in myself but better understood them and can appreciate them from a new introspective way.

Even though I wanted more at times, I wanted her to share more of her inner thoughts. I wanted to understand her essence, her feelings and perceptions on her life and her adventures. Although I was wanting for more; I appreciate the uniqueness of having the opportunity to read her exact words and hope that one day I can leave behind something for my great-great-great grandchildren to relish.

Om, thanks so much for this

Submitted by Noah on Sun, 01/04/2009 - 1:18pm.

Om, thanks so much for this journal entry and that fantastic Ken Wilber essay, which I am especially enjoying exploring. Wilber's call to artists to "scale these new heights and return to tell those of us silently waiting what they have seen" carries such wonderfully mythic spiritual urgency; that need to plumb the darkest depths of the psyche again and again in order to scale the mountain of the transpersonal reminds me of any of the great spiritual teachers, any of the great story tellers who have brought us back the symbols (in stories, mythologies, images, etc) that help us pass through what you call the space between symbol and symbolized, and which help us to experience the subject to which the object is pointing.

J. Campbell writes, "it has always been the prime function of mythology and rite to supply the symbols that carry the human spirit forward, in counteraction to those other constant human fantasies that tend to tie it back..." and I think Wilber and yourself might place great art inside that statement too. What I'm still pondering about Wilber's essay right now is whether the various worldviews, so radically different, are necessarily mutually exclusive and opposed, or instead when considered holistically, reflect more of an evolutionary process in which greater worldviews encompass and include earlier ones. That the idea of exclusivity, that the rational view might oppose or negate the mythic, that the mythic stands contrary to the animistic, is perhaps necessary to the evolution of thought, but not useful anymore. And that perhaps what the postmodern has prepared us for, after we move past that relentless irony and self-reflexivity which is so annoying and masturbatory, is a more encompassing and open perception in which the resonant symbols and ways of knowing present in earlier worldviews can find new context in a more integrated and compassionate understanding.

Of course Wilber notes that we have the capacity to experience alI worldviews given the right context, and my feeling, from the little I know of and am able to experience in this plethora of worldviews (recently I have been really feeling the subjectivity and spiritual energy of objects, but thats another post), is that all of them have, in their own manner, an affirmative capacity, in which here and now is experienced completely in its spiritual truth. But they seem to become pathologized when they become negative, when another time and place is regarded as the the true salivation, when existentialism degenerates to absurdism, postmodernism to aperspective maddness and "relentless insencerity." I feel it simply as the difference between a worldview leading me to the joy of 'Yes' or trapping me in the despair of 'No'. But the reflex to denial (of what simply is) is so powerful in this particular time and society, so in my particular lexicon, so much of what Wilber is saying is about moving toward a new affirmative space, passing through the bottomless though exhausted deapths of self to to the transpersonal, egoless Self.

And so I would think that the "transpersonal" by its very nature, would also include the affirmations of all those previous perspectives, reformed, refashioned, and regrounded in a new context, which I guess accords with the ending notes of Wilber's essay anyway.

I NOAH MAN WHO INCLUDES: RESPONSE TO NOAH

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Mon, 01/05/2009 - 12:48am.

Your post today is timely in light of a post I was formulating and beginning to write on selfhood. And, if you think about it, to a large degree, that is what we are referring to, the self in relationship to nature and consciousness. What we assume as prefixed (selfhood) is anything but, but that has not always been the case. For, in truth, when you speak of the transpersonal (that which transcends the self), you are referring to all beings, meaning inclusive of all (and not just human individual) beings.

And so, Noah, in your very beautiful response to my post, ART AND THE EVOLUTION OF CONSCIOUSNESS: CARAVAGGIO AND LIGHT, you say,

“that need to plumb the darkest depths of the psyche again and again in order to scale the mountain of the transpersonal reminds me of any of the great spiritual teachers, any of the great story tellers who have brought us back the symbols (in stories, mythologies, images, etc) that help us pass through what you call the space between symbol and symbolized, and which help us to experience the subject to which the object is pointing.”

And I ask, who is the subject? This question, as many know by now, is the quintessential postmodern question, the question that led the philosopher Foucault to proclaim that "Man will be erased like a face drawn in sand at the edge of the sea." what he meant of course is that the sovereign subject who is at the foundation of representation "is an invention of recent date,” that the individual self (or subject) is nothing more than an ideological construct, and that “there is no "truth" aside from discursive myths society perpetuates and constructs through language and thought.” Wow! And I ask, “Isn’t that what Buddhist philosophy has been telling us for 2500 years?”

What I love about this clause: “and which help us to experience the subject to which the object is pointing” is its relative ambiguity. What or whom is the subject? Is Noah referring to the logical or ontological subject? Is it the logical meaning of the subject of a proposition expressing a judgment: saying something about something? About this subject? This is close to the medieval subject which indicates the subject-matter, for example, of a science. In this way, the subject is actually an object.

But, ontologically, in Aristotlean logic, for example, subject is called substance, “whatever is a natural kind of thing and exists in its own right,” e.g., rocks, trees, animals. Accidents, which are rooted in substances, are modifications (attributions) that substances undergo but do not fundamentally change the substance. Color and weight are examples of accidents. The distinction is important because it logically reflects the way reality is structured and the way we view reality. Back to the medieval subject, those who fell under a ruler’s power were called his “subjects.” This means that human beings were “subjected” to attribution, dominated by the accident of their births or situations, to the control of authority. This subject, however, the personal mode of being.

In the modern era, as the subject (matter) became know as the “object” of scientific examination, a distinction between knower and known received increasingly more emphasis. This subject is what we now call the personal being. Prior to modernity, the thesis that the knower is determined by the known prevailed; but modern philosophy asserted that the knowing subject “co-constitutes” his field of knowledge. The knower-as-subject was now undergoing analysis in order to better understand the cognitive field itself and hence the subject was referred to as a cognitive, personal experience. Later, subject was seen more than a knower but also as “a feeling, affective, and emotional being, having an ethical attitude, aesthetic powers and so on.” It was roughly at this point that the distinction was made that subjectivity of personal being is distinctly different from a “thing-like” being. “I am a subject because my existence is not encompassed by the blind interplay of natural forces, because I assume an attitude with respect to things, because to a certain extent I take my fate into my own hands.” In this one sentence, philosophically speaking in western civilization, you can feel a major developmental and historical shift in this idea of subject.

And so, with that important (and very relevant) introduction, I would now like to address your most beautiful and significant question about the cornerstone of Ken Wilber’s brilliant synthesis of developmental theory in the philosophy of consciousness: “Transcend and Include.”

You say, “What I'm still pondering about Wilber's essay right now is whether the various worldviews, so radically different, are necessarily mutually exclusive and opposed, or instead when considered holistically, reflect more of an evolutionary process in which greater worldviews encompass and include earlier ones.”

In Wilber’s `The Ways We Are in This Together: Intersubjectivity and Interobjectivity in the Holonic Kosmos, Part II. ZONE #1: The Insides of the Interior (http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/books/kosmos/excerptC/part2-4.cfm ), the developmental context of the evolution of consciousness is expressed in his elaboration of a previously formulated idea of “Transcend and Include.” He says, “Transcend-and-include means something new and higher and external to the present entity comes into being (transcendence), but the present entity is taken up, included, and enfolded in the new occasion as an internal thread or strand in its makeup.” (italics mine).

Let’s take the idea of self or subject, since I presented a very brief history of it above. Over time, the idea of self evolved from object (thing-like) to subject (thought-like). Analogously speaking, if the subject represents a cell and the object represents a molecule, over time (evolution) the subject (cell) “comes into being” as “something new and higher” than the object (molecule). The molecule doesn’t disappear, it is merely “taken up, included, and enfolded in the new occasion” of subject. So, we can now say, I am a self (subject) with a body (object). Furthermore, the object can be understood as “internal” to the subject basically because it “follows the agency” of the subject. The object is internal to a subject, but the subject is external to its own object. All of the material aspects of the body, for example, are contained within the concept of self. The self is literally and figuratively “over the head” of the body.

Wilber argues quite gracefully and poetically that “Internality is the form of spacetime's self-prehension, a self-organization through self-transcendence (to put it in dry third-person terms), or--in first-person terms much more accurate--the love that moves the sun and other stars.” What this means is that “internality” is consciousness itself as evolution using manifestation (spacetime) to apprehend or experience itself; through intention “enfolding more and more, embracing more and more, loving more and more, until a Spirit is revealed that transcends all and includes all, a Spirit nonetheless fully present in the first transcendence and the first inclusion, which to say, fully present from the very start of this or any universe.” Recapitulated in individual consciousness, I am a seeker seeking myself. The “seeking” is “the higher reaches of the human domain as a wisdom that lets go of everything and a compassion that embraces everything.”

No doubt, because of (his) language, Wilber is ostensibly playing in the metaphysical and reminiscent of an idealism abhorrent to postmodernism. But, in a dialogue a few years back, he is clear to point out what postmodernists call `the myth of the given;’ “the belief that the world as it appears in my consciousness, as it is given to me, is somehow fundamentally real, foundationally real, and that therefore I can base my worldview upon whatever presents itself to my consciousness…. But the whole point is that what our awareness delivers to us is set in cultural contexts and many other kinds of contexts that cause an interpretation and a construction of our perceptions before they even reach our awareness. So what we call real or what we think of as given is actually constructed—it's part of a worldview.”

And Wilber would agree, Noah, with what you so perceptively share, “And that perhaps what the postmodern has prepared us for, after we move past that relentless irony and self-reflexivity which is so annoying and masturbatory, is a more encompassing and open perception in which the resonant symbols and ways of knowing present in earlier worldviews can find new context in a more integrated and compassionate understanding.”

Wilber’s response is: “The world of form has changed, and the world of modernity and postmodernity has brought crucial breakthroughs in how we understand the world of form. So the challenge for young men and women today is to get involved in the creation of a post-metaphysical spirituality that understands the myth of the given and that understands the demands of modernity and postmodernity.”

“so much of what Wilber is saying is about moving toward a new affirmative space, passing through the bottomless though exhausted depths of self to the transpersonal, egoless Self…. And so I would think that the "transpersonal" by its very nature, would also include the affirmations of all those previous perspectives, reformed, refashioned, and regrounded in a new context, which I guess accords with the ending notes of Wilber's essay anyway.”

Indeed it would!

“Albert Einstein is said to have performed the following thought experiment when he was contemplating relativity. He asked himself a question: If you were literally riding on the edge of a light beam and you held a mirror in front of you, could you see yourself? And the answer is no. If nothing travels faster than light, light can't get to the mirror to reflect your reflection, so you would see nothing. That's another good image for the edge of evolution. There's nothing in the future to see. We're creating it as we go out there. And it's pretty scary to look in the mirror and not see anything—“ italics mine.

QUICK RESPONSE TO OM

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Mon, 01/05/2009 - 1:13pm.

Om, once again, nice formulation on self as subject and its relationship to transcendence, particularly in ken Wilber’s remarkable synthesis of eastern and western wisdom traditions. Wilber’s photographic memory and genius in his encyclopedic philosophical knowledge and ability to synthesize massive amounts of data from several traditions, is in such a way as to create a fresh and even original presentation of consciousness as evolution. Though the idea of transcend and include dates back to at least Aurobindo in eastern Indian spiritual tradition, as well as, later western thinkers, such as Whitehead and Maslow, Wilber has made these teachings accessible to a wide audience. But, I think, what it comes down to is exactly reconciling this ostensibly oppositional encounter with nature (body/matter) and consciousness (mind/spirit). Irrespective of what “culture-sphere” the human subject is perspectivized from throughout historical development (i.e., typically science, morality, art, and religion), it still comes down to how mind (subjectivity as consciousness) interprets perceived reality across the spectrum of cultural (collective) consciousness. Consciousness is always consciousness of something and thus the realizations emanating from that something culminate in the actual concrete achievements (artifacts) of that inquiry. Civilization itself is the quintessential culmination of human consciousness seeking itself. But, the key is in understanding that these achievements are neither pre-fixed nor static representations of reality. They are more like reality finding-in-the-making and making-in-the-finding of itself. The historical categorical division of consciousness into science, morality, art, and religion as cultural spheres is in fact arbitrary but useful.

I have to go but would like to discuss further this fascinating evolution of the philosophical "subject" and its implications both psychologically and outside the realm of philosophical preoccupations.

OM, SORRY YOU HAD TO GO, BUT

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Mon, 01/05/2009 - 2:26pm.

I like the idea of a situated self, the human subject as a historical set of characters – or better, characterizations -- (as diverse and multiple perspectives) in evolution’s narrative. It is as much a field of vision as it is a story of the subject as actor and acted upon. Perspective and context are two terms I hold very dear because of their emphasis on “partial” truths part and parcel of ongoing enfoldments (transcend/exterior) unfoldments (include/interior) and seeking greater integration (wisdom). The impossibility of a single truth nor any beginning and ending points speak to change (impermanence) as a beautiful metaphor for reality. It also speaks to the Buddhist tenet of dependent origination, the fundamental condition of all phenomena (all that exists), which can simply be stated as: everything is dependent on everything else. Everything in the universe is interconnected through the web of cause and effect so that the whole and the parts are mutually interdependent. As I’ve mentioned before, according to Matthieu Ricard, “The word “interdependence” is a translation of the Sanskrit pratitya samutpada, which means “to be by co-emergence.” This can be interpreted as 1) nothing exists on its own, and 2) nothing can be its own cause. This is basic intersubjectivity because it debunks the notion that “things” (self) precede relationships.

And further, the idea of interdependence, though undermining the notion of “reality,” also debunks the idealism of “spirit only” and the nihilism of negation necessarily because interdependence is what allows reality (phenomena) to appear. That is, “If you can’t speak of real existence, you cannot speak of non-existence either. Because phenomena have no intrinsic reality, they can have infinite manifestations.” Thus, the philosopher, Nagarjuna’s formulation:

When this is present, that comes to be; from the

Arising of this, that arises. When this is absent, that

Does not come to be, on the cessation of this, that

Ceases.

So, you see, this is one perspective of the situated self from one metaphysic tradition and culture. However, paradoxically, the philosophy of this metaphysical formulation was constructed at a time when the average stage of development was what we call mythic or premodern, but the truths and principles emerging from these sages are clearly post-postmodern. This speaks to the spiraling of consciousness as diversity and hierarchy. The truth of the matter is that some human beings are more spiritually evolved than others. In today’s postmodern world this statement is considered “politically incorrect.” But, that’s not really my problem and merely reflects a kind of narcissism that is more rigidly (but unconsciously) attached to a politicized “self” that it is advocating against.

OM, I’M BACK! MORE ON SELFHOOD

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Tue, 01/06/2009 - 12:08am.

One way we can see the arbitrary ontological status of self is how it is culturally situated, both in narrative and the perceived field. The interface and relativization of subjectivity and culture is most clearly seen when contrasting western and eastern representations of self. I have among my friends, for example, a large number of individuals from at least fifteen countries, including east and south Asia, all with diverse self-percepts. As my friends share their life narratives, the diverse perception of self and the normativity it adheres to is clear. One Taiwanese friend, a bicultural woman in her late twenties, for example, has a perception of self consistent with philosophical and socio-cultural research, which suggests that, in Asian cultures the “self” primarily tends to exist in relation to others, is fundamentally socially and family oriented, and interdependent. Conversely, western ideals of self are firmly established on an individuated self concept, which includes a metaphysically discrete and separate, independent, self-reliant self capable of transcending the influences of others and society. From these two complementary forms, the cultural spheres you speak of – science, art, morality, and religion – will be commensurately and completely bifurcated in their manifestations. And this includes socio-political and economical orientations as well. You can see how cultures clash given these contrasting forms of selfhood alone.

But, philosophically speaking, it is the arbitrariness of self-construction that is most compelling as a subject. When postmodernism dismantles the modernist versions of self and renders not only God, but the human being (and, by extension, the author) as a philosophical invention, I can’t help but see the irony: That western man is now catching up to the eastern notion of self. Of course, this is glibly stated and ironic itself; but does point to a kind of hubris that embodies western civilization and most painfully reflected in the Catholic Church. Which leads me to another interesting question: What happens to Catholicism and other "dualisms" when duality gets swept up by nondualism, especially when the postmodern impulse finally arrives at a grammar that will articulate this new reality?

SELF AND RELIGION AS INVENTIONS OF MEANING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Tue, 01/06/2009 - 2:28am.

SELF AND RELIGION AS INVENTIONS OF MEANING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRANSCENDENCE

Om, I’m glad you mentioned religion, and particularly Catholicism, in your last post. I was reflecting a bit on one of the cultural spheres of self, namely, the domain of religion, and how it has served to both galvanize and inhibit individual and collective spiritual development. Make no doubt about it, as a stage of consciousness, religion historically has served a critical function in creating order and structure for the self (and collective selves) in an existentially chaotic world. This is close to Ken Wilber’s first formulation of religion’s two other functions: creating meaning for the separate self vis-à-vis presenting rituals, myths and other narratives; and “radical transformation and liberation.” In the first, which Wilber designates as “translation,” religion “consoles the self, fortifies the self, defends the self, and promotes the self.” In fact, it has been the “social glue” of culture. In the second, “transformation,” the self is dismantles and shattered: “not consolation but devastation, not entrenchment but emptiness, not complacency but explosion, not comfort but revolution….Transformative spirituality, authentic spirituality, is therefore revolutionary. It does not legitimate the world, it breaks the world; it does not console the world, it shatters it. And it does not render the self content, it renders it undone.”

Analogous to psychological development of self hood, translation is an absolutely necessary function for shoring up the self; it makes sense of the world and establishes the necessary boundaries between self and (in this case) Other (God). Like the developing and maturing psychological self, the religious self in translation is given a new way to think and feel about reality --“perhaps holistic instead of atomistic, perhaps forgiveness instead of blame, perhaps relational instead of analytic.” The aim of translation is to alleviate the suffering of a separate self. But, this is not transformation.

“With transformation, the very process of translation itself is challenged, witnessed, undermined and eventually dismantled…. Authentic transformation is not a matter of belief but of the death of the believer; not a matter of translating the world but of transforming the world; not a matter of finding solace but of finding infinity on the other side of death.”

And like the psychological self seeking consolation, “at some point in our maturation process, translation itself, no matter how adequate or confident, simply ceases to console. No new beliefs, no new paradigm, no new myths, no new ideas, will staunch the encroaching anguish. Not a new belief for the self, but the transcendence of the self altogether, is the only path that avails.”

Wilber’s comparison of translation and transformation can also be found in other profound thinkers, such as Kant and Kierkegaard. Kant’s “religion within the limits of reason alone” was similar to Kierkegaard’s “religiousness A” and Wilber’s idea of “translation.” Thus, in this context, religion is a “religion of immanence,” a cultural configuration of beliefs and practices embodied in institutionalization. Kierkegaard’s “religiousness B,” however, is similar to Wilber’s “transformation” and represents for Kierkegaard a “rupture of immanence, fracturing all efforts by the self to find the God-relationship within itself. But, to be clear, this view is radically different from Wilber in a basic sense: it still embraces duality. Despite its rupturing of immanence, it still finds its occasion in “the encounter with a radically transcendent Other.” There still appears to be a metaphysical upholding of the traditional view of the transcendent Other as having unconditioned and independent existence; that is, existing in and through itself alone and separate from the realm of immanence as defined by causality. This is God the infinite, immutable, ineffable, and supremely perfect. But, this idea of “God” cannot logically sustain itself in nondualism and Wilber recognizes this. It’s what I have previously called “the logic of the ill logic” and what Chandrakirti wrote as, “If something could be produced by something intrinsically “other,”/Then darkness could be born of fire/And anything could be born from anything.” It is only through interdependence, a co-arising in which phenomena condition one another mutually within an infinite network of dynamic, impermanent causality, that reality can be explained. And if God cannot (independently) exist, neither can “self.”

Are transformation and transcendence different? They are often used synonymously but I experience or feel them differently. For me, the self (or individual “holon”) in action is self-transcendence while transformation is the ontological break between the personal and transpersonal stages of development. Transcendence, like translation, can also move along the same horizontal path. Sartre, for example, uses transcendence to describe relationships between the self and world. In this way it’s a unifying agent of consciousness that concretely extends across and revisits (connects) past moments of consciousness without identifying with any particular moment. The more radical aspects of transcendence refer to what Wilber described as “transcend and include.” For example, language transcends speech acts in the same way the cell transcends molecules, the interior composition of the cell. This is a vertical movement. Thus, transcendence is moving beyond “that which it has become” and the going over “to that which it is not yet.”

Transpersonal views today | Response to Om

Submitted by Megan on Tue, 01/06/2009 - 9:42am.

Om, Thanks again for this great post and essay it has given me a lot to think about. Before I have a chance to dig into your continued dialectic on transpersonal worldviews and self I have a few questions. Since 1997 when Ken Wilber wrote this expert what has changed? Has any of the transpersonal worldviews (subtle, casual, and nondual taken the lead as an adopted, better understood and evolved worldview? Has there been any different worldviews that Wilber did not discuss that has emerged. And in your opinion has the art world begun to depict what transpersonal looks and feels like?

HEY MEGAN: KEN WILBER AND ART

Submitted by Om Effortlessly... on Wed, 01/07/2009 - 12:49am.

Let me respond to your question on art, since art is so dear to me. In Wilber’s voluminous oeuvre, he wrote remarkable essays on the transpersonal in art. They are truly an education and worth reading on many levels. Here are three:

Ken Wilber / Journal / November 1998

The Irony and the Ecstasy

Now that the postmodern wave is washing on the shore of its own demise, what new worldviews surge from the ocean of the soul to announce a new perception?

The reason that art in the postmodern, existential world has reached something of a cul-de-sac is not that art itself is exhausted, but that the existential worldview is. Just as rational modernity previously exhausted its forms and gave way to a-perspectival postmodernity, so now the postmodern itself is on a morbid deathwatch, with nothing but infinitely mirrored irony to hold its hand, casting flowers where they will not be missed. The skull of postmodernity grins on the near horizon, and in the meantime, we are between two worldviews, one slowly dying, one not yet born.

Whatever we may think about it, and volumes have been written, perhaps the best that can be said of the avant-garde is that it always implicitly understood itself to be riding the crest of the breaking wave of evolving worldviews. The avant-garde was the leading edge, the growing tip, of an evolving humanity. It would herald the new, announce the forthcoming. It would first spot, then depict, new ways of seeing, new modes of being, new forms of cognition, new heights or depths of feeling, and in all cases, new modes of perception. It would spot, and depict, the coming worldview, while breaking decisively with the old.

The story is familiar. Jacques-Louis David’s art was part of the early rise of modernity (reason and revolution) that violently broke with the remnants of the mythic, aristocratic, hierarchical, rococo past. From neoclassicism to abstract expressionism, each succeeding growing tip became in turn the conventional, accepted norm, only to see its own form challenged by the next avant-garde. Even postmodernism, with its a-perspectival madness, which first attempted to deconstruct the avant-garde altogether, intimately depended upon it for something to deconstruct; thus, as Donald Kuspit points out in The Cult of the Avant-Garde Artist, a type of neo-avant-garde art inevitably dogged postmodernism from the start.

Like huge successive waves crashing ashore, worldviews succeed one another, and the avant-garde, at their best, were the great surfers of these waves. Now that the postmodern wave is washing on the shore of its own demise, what new waves are forthcoming? What new worldviews surge from the ocean of the soul to announce a new perception? Where are we to look for the contents of the sincere artistic statements that will supplant irony and a-perspectival madness? Standing on tiptoe, looking through the mist, can the vague outline of the face of tomorrow’s art, and therefore, tomorrow’s world, even be seen?

What worldviews, from those available, might carry the contours of tomorrow’s art? Of course, some aspects of the coming landscape will be entirely new and original. Creative advance into novelty, according to Whitehead, is the basic feature of the universe. But we also know, from extensive psychological and sociological research, that certain basic features of the dozen or so major worldviews are potentials already available to the human organism, and instead of starting entirely from scratch, nature usually reworks what is at hand, before adding the finishing touches of novelty.

We know the worldviews that have been tried, toiled at, worked, and exhausted: archaic, magic, mythic, mental-rational (modern), and existential a-perspectival (postmodern). The postmodern, of course, will continue its major influence for decades to come, on the way to its final resting place. It is simply that artistic productions, as canaries in the cultural mine shaft, are dropping dead in alarming numbers as the rotting gas of postmodernity first starts whiffing down that tunnel. So the art world, more quickly than the sturdier herd mentality, seeks out new horizons; thus the dead-end of today’s art is really the future endgame of the postmodern worldview in general. So what other horizons are available right now?

Three, at least: subtle, causal, and non-dual. The phenomenologists of worldviews (those who research and describe the contours of available worldviews) describe these three worldviews as being transrational or transpersonal, and they contrast them with the earlier worldviews, some of which are prerational or prepersonal (archaic, magic, and mythic), and some of which are rational or personal (mental and existential).

This gives men and women, as potentials in their own organisms, a spectrum of available worldviews, ranging from prerational to rational to transrational, from prepersonal to personal to transpersonal, from subconscious to self-conscious to superconscious. Supposing that we have exhausted the dizzying rhetorical regress of self-reflexivity, there are only two ways to go: back into subconsciousness, or forward into superconsciousness, back to the infrarational, or beyond to the suprarational.

The distinction is important, because the transrational, transpersonal worldviews are what might be called spiritual, yet they bear little relation to the traditional religious worldviews of the magic and mythic spheres. The transrational realms have nothing to do with external gods and goddesses, and everything to do with an interior awareness that plumbs the depths of the psyche. Nothing to do with petitionary prayer and ritual, and everything to do with expanding and clarifying awareness. Nothing to do with dogma and belief, everything to do with cleansing perception. Not everlasting life for the ego, but transcending the ego altogether. When one exhausts the personal, there is left the transpersonal. There is, right now, simply nowhere else to go.

Material in this column appears in One Taste: The Journals of Ken Wilber, from Shambhala Publications Inc., Boston. Copyright Ken Wilber, 1998.

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What worldviews, from those available, might carry the contours of tomorrow’s art? Of course, some aspects of the coming landscape will be entirely new and original. “Creative advance into novelty,” according to Whitehead, is the basic feature of the universe. But we also know, from extensive psychological and sociological research, that certain basic features of the dozen or so major worldviews, briefly summarized above, are potentials already available to the human organism, and instead of starting entirely from scratch, nature usually reworks what is at hand, before adding the finishing touches of novelty.

We know the worldviews that have been tried, toiled, worked, and exhausted: archaic, magic, mythic, mentalrational (modern), and existential aperspectival (postmodern). The postmodern, of course, will continue its major influence for decades to come, on the way to its final resting place. It is simply that artistic productions, as canaries in the cultural mine shaft, are dropping dead in alarming numbers as the rotting gas of postmodernity first starts whiffing down that tunnel. So the art world, more quickly than the sturdier herd mentality, seeks out new horizons; and thus, as we earlier noted, the deadend of today’s art is really the future endgame of the postmodern worldview in general. So what other horizons are available right now?

Three, at least. We already named them: subtle, causal, and nondual. The phenomenologists of worldviews (those who research and describe the contours of available worldviews) describe these three worldviews as being transrational or transpersonal, and they contrast them with the earlier worldviews, some of which are prerational or prepersonal (archaic, magic, and mythic), and some of which are rational or personal (mental and existential). This gives men and women, as potentials in their own organisms, a spectrum of available worldviews, ranging from prerational to rational to transrational, from prepersonal to personal to transpersonal, from subconscious to selfconscious to superconscious. Supposing that we have exhausted the dizzying rhetorical regress of self reflexivity, there are only two ways to go: back into subconsciousness, or forward into superconsciousness -- back to the infrarational, or beyond to the suprarational.

When one exhausts the personal, there is left the transpersonal. There is, right now, simply nowhere else to go.

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Not just different values, but different objects, exist in different worldviews. And artists can paint, depict, or express their particular perceptions of the objects in any of these realms, depending on whether or not they are themselves alive to these realms.

The sensorimotor world is familiar enough -- those objects that can be seen with the senses: rocks, birds, bowls of fruit, nudes, landscapes. Artists can, and doggedly have, painted those objects, in everything from a glaringly realistic fashion to the softer tones of impressionism. The magical worldview is one of plastic displacement and condensation, the world of the dream, full of its own very real objects (when dreaming -- when actually in that worldview -- it appears absolutely real, as all worldviews do). Artists can paint those objects, as the Surrealists, among others, have demonstrated. The mythic worldview is full of gods and goddesses, angels and elves, disembodied souls, figures kind and cruel, helpful and malevolent. Artists can paint those objects, and, indeed, most artists around the world, from 10,000 BCE to 1500 CE, painted nothing but those objects. The mental worldview is crowded with concepts and ideas, rational perspectivism and abstract forms. Artists not only can represent those contents (conceptual art, abstract art), they can express them as well (abstract expressionism). The existential (aperspectival) worldview involves, among other things, the terror of the isolated subject confronting an alien world bereft of mythic consolations and rational pretensions. Artists in every medium have depicted this state of affairs, often overpoweringly (e.g., Edvard Munch, “The Shriek”). But the aperspectival worldview is also, at its limits, a subject looking at itself as it tries to look at the world. Artists have attempted to depict this selfreflexive regress in a variety of ways, from deconstruction to ironic reflexivity to doubling (including the artist as part of the art) -- all a dicey game, all headed eventually for selfstrangulation.

That these transpersonal worldspaces are available to us as great, potential houses does not mean they come with all the furniture. We supply that ourselves. We build, create, add, model, fashion, mold, bring forth, and compose, and here artists in every medium have traditionally led the way, avant garde in the best and truest sense. So, on the one hand, we might look to the past for those rare occasions where a subculture plugged into the transpersonal realm and brought it forth in art and architecture, poetry and painting, crafts and compositions -- the influence of Zen on Japanese aesthetics, for example. But we can look to the past only for hints, because the house of our tomorrow can only be decorated by artists standing now on the threshold of that unfolding.

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To See A World

Some technical points

Ken Wilber

"To See a World," which I wrote for the Anselm Kiefer exhibit, reminds me how difficult it is, at this point, to write short pieces. If I have anything new or fresh to say, it is because of the overall "big picture" that I have tried to develop; and yet, in order to use that big picture, I have to introduce it to the reader first. So I have to find short, simple ways to summarize what is, after all, rather complex material, and this is a very dicey game. I find that often I am forced to use not just simple, but simplistic, summaries—not just short and accurate but short and slightly inaccurate. In the Kiefer piece, for example, I say that each individual has available the entire spectrum of worldviews. That is fine as a simplistic summary, but technically, each individual has available the entire spectrum of basic structures (or the basic levels in the overall spectrum of consciousness, matter to body to mind to soul to spirit); but worldviews are collectively shared perceptions, and these do not reside in individuals alone; moreover, the surface features necessary to flesh out the deep features of the basic structures are provided only by cultural contexts, and those do not reside in individuals either. Nonetheless, each basic structure carries with it the main cognitive ingredients that will under-grid a particular worldview, and since I did not have the space to go into all these details, as a shortcut I simply said all individuals have available to them the entire spectrum of worldviews.

What often happens is that, when somebody in our culture has a transpersonal peak experience, they will clothe that experience in the surface structures of our non-transpersonal culture, often with strange or sad results. This is why we await the new symbols of a future transpersonal religion, and this is where artists can—and will—help immeasurably. In the meantime, individuals still have access to these higher levels of the spectrum of consciousness, but they find little support for them in the culture at large, so their worldviews are usually shaped by various micro-communities in which they find themselves, and these micro-communities (such as the avant-garde) are almost always alienated from the larger culture (precisely because, at their best, they are tapping into higher domains not officially recognized by conventional reality). So the general points of the essay are still accurate and the conclusion is still sound (I wouldn't have used the simplistic summary otherwise); but it does point up the difficulty of getting these ideas across in a short space.

The Kiefer essay is based on the theory of integral semiotics that I outlined in The Eye of Spirit [chapter 3, note 12]. In linguistics, it is common to speak of signifiers, signifieds, referents, semantics, and syntax. For example, the word "dog." The written or material word "dog" is the signifier. What comes to your mind when you read the word "dog" is the signified. The actual dog is the referent. The semantics of the word "dog" is its meaning, its referent, or what the word actually "points to." The grammatical structure that the linguistic word "dog" exists in is the syntax.

One of the main controversies in semiotics (or the overall meaning of a word) is how to relate these various symbolic entities. And my point is that these four main entities (signifier, signified, semantic, and syntax) are actually, precisely, the four quadrants of any sign. If this is true, then we will have, arguably for the first time, an "integral semiotics" that explicates these four ingredients, which are essential in creating all meaning and significance. Thus, signifiers are Upper Right quadrant (the exterior words and written symbols); signifieds are Upper Left (the interior ideas and psychological states evoked by signifiers); syntax is Lower Right (the formal linguistic system and its grammatical structures); and semantics is Lower Left (collective cultural meaning, values, referents, and worldviews).

All referents exist in a particular worldview or worldspace (Lower Left), and artists can paint, depict, or otherwise express those worldspaces (this is what I meant by "magic objects," "mythic objects," "existential objects," etc.). In other words, the semantics (the referent or meaning) of a painting depends upon the worldview to which the artist has access. By and large, an artist in a magical worldview will paint magical objects, an artist in the mythic worldview will paint mythic objects, and so on. This is because there is not a single pregiven world, but rather a spectrum of enacted (or co-created) worldviews, in which different perceptions, and therefore different objects, exist. And artists, just like everybody else, generally exist within a particular worldview, and by painting or depicting those worldviews, they render them more visible, one of their great services.

This also means that, in order for artists to paint higher worldspaces, they have to develop to those higher dimensions in their own being. As Kandinsky said, "Construction on a purely spiritual basis is a slow business. The artist must train not only his eye but also his soul." This happens only as we transcend individuality, as Mondrian knew: "Through our intuition, the universal in us can become so active that it pushes aside our individuality. Then art can reveal itself." Or, as Malevich put it, true art can begin "only if the superconscious were accorded the privilege of directing creation."

If we look specifically at the psychic, subtle, causal, and nondual worldspaces, the idea is that perceptions in those domains can be depicted by artists who are alive to those domains in their own being. That gives us at least four levels of transpersonal art. Further, within those levels there are different types or ways of doing art. There are different horizontal styles possible at each of those vertical levels. We have already looked at the vertical levels (psychic, subtle, causal, and nondual); here are a few of the most important styles:

Transpersonal realism—this involves depicting the transpersonal terrain exactly as one sees it, more or less. Alex Grey, for example, often draws the transpersonal realms precisely as he sees them, in a very realistic fashion (as well as doing numerous painting of a more symbolic nature). Ernst Fuchs and the Fantastic Realists attempt to paint inner spiritual visions exactly as they perceive them. Likewise the Surrealists attempted to depict inner realities graphically (some, but by no means all, of which were transpersonal). The acupuncture meridian lines, depicted on acupuncture charts, are an example of a realistic map of the etheric energy systems (which exist at the pranic level but tend to be more easily perceived at the psychic level). Much of Tibetan Buddhist art, which looks symbolic or metaphorical, is actually a realistic depiction of certain transpersonal realities (such as archetypal yidam or spiritual forms) that become directly seen and experienced in advanced meditation (particularly at the subtle level).

Transpersonal impressionism—this is based on a direct transpersonal perception, but depicted in softer tones, easier lines, than the starker realism. Nonetheless, impressionism is still related in a somewhat realistic fashion to the event or perception it is depicting. Zen paintings—in which bamboo trees, birds, lakes are depicted as soft, foggy, and misty—are not so much nature realism as transpersonal impressionism—the soft impression of the world no longer seen dualistically. But before we can truly understand impressionism, we need to contrast it with:

Transpersonal expressionism—the conventional distinction between impressionism and expressionism is that the former is based on an external perception (e.g., a landscape), the latter on an internal perception (e.g., an emotional state). While there is some truth to that, the unfortunate implication is that the former is "real" or "realistic" and the latter is "merely subjective" and "not really real." But, stated as such, that is a completely misleading distinction. All perceptions exist in specific worldviews: a physical landscape exists in the sensorimotor worldspace, emotions exist in the pranic (or emotional-sexual) worldspace—or levels 1 and 2 in the Great Chain. Both are equally real. So typical impressionism and typical expressionism are both depicting real states, one external, one internal. To say that impressionism is realistic (and thus based on something "really real") but expressionism is "merely subjective" (and not based on something that is "really real"), is simply to value the sensorimotor worldspace and deny the emotional worldspace, whereas in fact they are both equally real and equally existing levels in the Great Holarchy of Being. (In fact, the Great Nest theorists are unanimous that the pranic level, level 2, is actually more real than the physical level, level 1, because it has more depth and thus is closer to Spirit as transcendental Goal. Only in flatland, only in the modern wasteland, is the sensorimotor world—the world of scientific materialism and bodyism—made the only and ultimate reality. This is a reductionistic nightmare we need not share.)

Likewise, the common distinction nature versus abstract—which is made by virtually all art critics—is completely mistaken in its implication, which is that nature painting is "representational," whereas abstract painting is "nonrepresentational." That's very incorrect. A landscape painting represents or depicts states of nature, an abstract painting represents or depicts states of mind. Both are, in that sense, representational, because both the sensorimotor worldspace and the mental worldspace are real and existing landscapes.

Nonetheless, the distinction is useful in this sense: impressionism (both conventional and transpersonal) is depicting states that are relatively objective to the painter's consciousness, while expressionism (both conventional and transpersonal) is depicting states that are relatively subjective to the painter's consciousness.

That is true for both conventional and transpersonal art. To focus on the latter: In all cases of genuine transpersonal art—whether realist, impressionist, or expressionist—the artist is attempting to depict or convey some spiritual, transrational, supraindividual state, feeling, awareness, or insight, through the chosen medium (music, painting, dance, poetry, etc.). But with transpersonal expressionism, these states are still "too close" to be seen more objectively or realistically, and thus artists often feel they are trying to convey something for which they don't quite have the vocabulary. Unlike transpersonal impressionism and realism, where the events or states are seen fairly clearly, transpersonal expressionism always has a sense of a struggle to convey. Occasionally, transpersonal expressionism simply communicates states that intrinsically do not lend themselves to objective, impressionistic, or realistic modes. Much of Rumi's poetry; some of the painting of Kandinsky, Mondrian, Malevich, and Rothko; and many spiritual hymns are good examples of transpersonal expressionism.

Technical point: the reason this has always been an incredibly slippery distinction—impressionism versus expressionism, the former being objective and the latter being subjective—is that in the growth and development of consciousness, what is subject at one stage becomes object at the next. Thus, the infant starts out identified with his body; his subjective self is his sensory body; he cannot "objectify" the body or see it as an object. But when the mind emerges, the child identifies with it: the mind becomes the new subject, which can then witness the body as an object. When the soul emerges, it becomes the new self or subject, which can then witness both the mind and the body. Finally, with the emergence of I-I, or the pure empty Witness—which is the primordial Self or Absolute Subjectivity—the soul, the mind, and the body can all be impartially witnessed: one has ceased identifying exclusively with any of them, so that—with One Taste—one can identify as well with the entire world. In each case, we dis-identify with a lower level (which becomes an object of awareness), identify with a higher level (which becomes the new self or subject of awareness), only to eventually dis-identify with that. Thus, what is subject at one stage becomes object at the next, until both subject and object are exhausted and One Taste alone shines. (This is just another example of Whitehead's dynamic of prehension, which I consider fundamental: the subject of this moment becomes the object of the next moment's subject. Human macro development—the broad stages of human growth and development—follow Whitehead's micro development—the moment-to-moment unfolding of experience—as we would expect, since both are simply examples of the major dynamic of evolution itself, which is to holarchically transcend and include.)

But this means that what artists might render expressionistically (or subjectively) at one stage of their development, they might render more realistically or impressionistically (or objectively) at the next stage—precisely because their subjective world has now become more objective: they have transcended the earlier worldspace—dis-identified with it, detached from it to some degree—and thus they can see it more clearly. They are no longer expressing a lower subject, but realistically looking at it as an object. At the same time, they are now identified with the next higher worldview—the next higher self or subject—which, being "too close" to see clearly, they will most likely have to express in subjective, expressionistic tones. This is why the line between expressionism and impressionism is always sliding: the line between subjective and objective is likewise sliding (the subject of one stage is the object of the next). Still, it is a useful distinction, and one I will retain

Traditionally, an artist wishing to depict the transpersonal domain first enters the appropriate state of consciousness—psychic, subtle, causal, or nondual—and then simply depicts what he or she sees (using the chosen medium—poetry, music, dance, narrative, painting, etc.—and according to a chosen style). This results in transpersonal realism, transpersonal impressionism, or transpersonal expressionism—in poetry, music, dance, narrative, painting, and so on—across the transpersonal spectrum. But in all cases of genuine transpersonal art, the artist enters the appropriate higher state and then attempts to convey that state artistically.

The main point of doing so is not merely or even especially self-expression, but to help elicit or evoke these higher states in the viewers of the art. This is why all magnificent art has a moral depth to it: it talks to us from our own higher possibilities, it pulls us to our own greater destinies, it calls to us from what we can become.

Transpersonal realism, impressionism, and expressionism are the three main styles of authentic transpersonal art (whether expressed in poetry, music, dance, narrative, painting, etc.). What renders them authentic is not the content per se, but the depth of the artist conveying them. To be authentic, the artist must be speaking, in whatever style, directly from the higher state itself (psychic, subtle, causal, or nondual). And a critic can judge this if and only if the critic is alive to these higher domains as well.

That gives us a grid of three styles across four levels, or twelve distinctive types of authentic transpersonal art. But before I give examples of each, there is one other major style, less profound but much more common, that needs to be discussed, and that is transpersonal symbolism.

A transpersonal symbol is a symbol whose actual referent is in any of the transpersonal levels or realms. Words like "spirit," "buddha-nature," "deity," and "emptiness" are written symbols (or signifiers) of actual realities (or referents) that can be known directly in the transpersonal realms of development. But until those realities are experienced, the words remain symbols only.

It is often said that mystical experiences are ineffable. Absolutely not true. Or rather, no more true than for any other experience. Sex is ineffable, the taste of a cake is ineffable, listening to Bach music is ineffable, watching a sunset is ineffable. You know the actual meaning of those words, not by listening to the words, but by having the experiences to which they refer. If I say "orgasm," and you've had that experience, then you will know what the word means. If not, not. Likewise with "spirit," "godhead," "cessation," "interior luminosity"—if you have had those experiences, you will know what those words mean. If not, not. Words are just as adequate, or inadequate, for mysticism as for sex or any other experience; it's just that mystical experiences are rarer than orgasms and sunsets, so people say you can't "talk" about them at all, which is silly—of course you can, if you've had the experience. Zen masters talk about Emptiness all the time!, and they know exactly what they mean by the words (and the words are quite adequate), because they have had the experience.

So we can say: all experiences are equally ineffable, in the sense that words will never substitute for the experience itself (in sex, sunsets, or satori); but if you've had the particular experience, words do just fine in symbolically representing them (in sex, sunsets, and satori). The key is: you must have the experience to know what the words actually mean (technically, you need the developmental signified in order to know the corresponding referent of the particular signifier). A symbol or sign, in all cases, simply represents an experience in some domain (gross, subtle, or causal).

Thus, for example, the word "sunset" represents an experience in the sensorimotor worldspace. "Anger" represents an experience in the pranic or emotional-sexual worldspace. "The Virgin Mary" represents an experience in the mythic worldspace. The mathematical symbol "negative one" represents an experience in the rational worldspace. "Kundalini" is an experience in the psychic worldspace. The words "complete mental cessation" represent an experience in the causal worldspace. And so on.

Thus, "transpersonal symbolism" means any symbol or sign whose referent is in the transpersonal domains (psychic, subtle, causal, or nondual).

Now, it is in the nature of all symbols (conventional and transpersonal) that they do not actually look like that which they symbolize. The symbol "dog" does not look like a real dog. The word "Spirit " does not look like Spirit. Symbols, remember, stand for (or represent) a direct experience, and as such, they themselves do not look like, nor can they substitute for, that experience.

In art, this leads to several important distinctions. Let's say that I wish to paint a picture that protests human aggression. If I do this realistically, I might actually paint, say, a firing squad shooting a man (as Goya did). The painting looks more or less like the real scene. It is not symbolic, it is realist (or impressionist). But I can also do a symbolic painting, which will use other images in a symbolic fashion—perhaps doves falling to their death, or hearts with swords pushed through them, and so on. These symbols do not look like the real situation I am protesting, but they stand for, or symbolically represent, what I have in mind, namely, the horrors of human aggression.

The same is true for transpersonal realism and transpersonal symbolism. The former looks like what it depicts, the latter does not. Thus, the painting of a luminous tunnel of vibrant light extending above and beyond the crown of the head is an example of transpersonal realism, because that is a more-or-less direct depiction of a common experience in the subtle domain. But the hermetic drawings of Robert Fludd, for example, are merely a transpersonal symbolism—the drawings look like nothing in the actual transpersonal domains; they are merely mental symbols representing the fact that higher domains exist, but they do not themselves necessarily stem directly or immediately from those higher domains.

This distinction between realism and symbolism is important in transpersonal art, because 1) the meaning of a symbol is the experience it stands for, 2) transpersonal symbols stand for experiences in the transpersonal domains, 3) few people have those experiences. That means that most transpersonal art remains merely symbolic for most people—they know only the symbols, not the experiences that give the actual meaning.

So transpersonal symbolism is, as it were, a diluted, weaker form of transpersonal art. It symbolizes higher realms, but does not itself directly depict those realms, because it looks like nothing in those higher realms. It is a mental symbol that reminds people that there are higher realms, but it gives no indication what those higher realms are actually like. For this reason, transpersonal symbolism (unlike realism, impressionism, and expressionism) does not, generally speaking, have the power to elicit those higher realms in viewers. It is forged in the mental domain and remains confined to the mental domain, but at least it points to higher and deeper occasions, and to that extent is a valid, useful form of transpersonal art.

Each of those four styles (realism, impressionism, expressionism, symbolism) can be applied to each of the four major transpersonal realms (psychic, subtle, causal, nondual). This gives us a grid of sixteen types of transpersonal (TP) art. Here are a few quick examples from several of them:

Symbolic—Most typical transpersonal art, myths, parables, and narratives are symbolic only; they are not direct depictions (realist or impressionist) of the transpersonal domains, but merely symbols that suggest or hint at the transpersonal domains. This is also true for many Jungian archetypes and common mythological motifs. Of course, not all myths and archetypes are even symbolic of the transrational realms; most, in fact, are symbolic of the prerational realms (a confusion of which is still rampant in spiritual circles), and they exert not a transgressive but a regressive pull in consciousness. Much "religious symbolism" (Moses parting the Red Sea, the Virgin birth, the earth resting on a Hindu serpent, etc.) has its referent in the magic and mythic—not psychic and subtle—worldviews.

Nonetheless, authentic transpersonal symbolism can be found in many of the Tantras (East and West), where extensive symbolism is used to represent higher stages of transpersonal development. Likewise, the "empty circle" drawn by Zen calligraphers is TP symbolic of the causal (or pure cessation; the circle does not look like Emptiness, it merely represents it). Similarly, "One Stroke" in Tibetan calligraphy (a single, bold, downward mark on the paper) is TP symbolic of Ati or the nondual.

Impressionist—Many mandalas are a TP impressionism of the subtle dimension (in contemplation, the inward eye often perceives symmetrical, billowing, luminous patterns—in other words, mandalas; usually these are impressionistic, but in Vajrayana they are rendered in an extremely realist fashion, with minutely detailed aspects, as can be seen in most thangka paintings; these are not symbolic, they are realist, for they depict inner realities that can be directly perceived in meditation). The blue-black background of many Tibetan thangkas is a TP impressionism of the causal (in states of pure cessation or unmanifest absorption, one is directly immersed in a vast, infinite sea of unmanifest or "black" unborn reality, which is often impressionistically rendered as a blue-black color in thangkas; similarly, Samantabhadra, the "Ati-Buddha," is always painted blue-black, shorn of all ornaments or manifest qualities, giving the impression of naked awareness). The best of Zen landscapes are a TP impressionism of nondual Suchness (Suchness is not a reality apart from other realities but the "isness" or "thusness" of any and all domains; Zen artists often depict nature in its suchness, and they do so in impressionistic, not harsh realist, terms, because nature itself is not Spirit but a manifestation of Spirit; specifically, nature is the Nirmanakaya, not the Dharmakaya, but the former is a manifestation of the latter and thus a fitting object of a "Suchness painting").

Expressionist—Mondrian, Kandinsky, Malevich, Brancusi, and Rothko are often a TP expressionism of the mental-to-psychic dimension (as these artists themselves made clear, they were attempting to express internal mental states or ideas, particularly as they verged on transpersonal, spiritual, or universal themes). Some of Bach, Mozart, and later Beethoven are a TP expressionism of the subtle (the "music of the spheres"). There is a dual emotional tone in many Zen landscapes (called sabi and wabi) that is a TP expressionism of Emptiness (which is vaguely intuited and given amorphous expression in these dual tones).

Realist—The chakra meridian maps are a TP realism of the psychic dimension. A painting of the "blue pearl" is a TP realism of the subtle (i.e., the blue pearl is a direct and unmistakable perception in certain subtle stages of kundalini meditation). Alex Grey, Ernst Fuchs, and Fantastic Realists are TP realists in many instances. Most meditative texts and sutras are a TP realism (descriptive phenomenology) of the transpersonal realms—they are not symbolic, they are realist! And here's a superb TP realism of nondual Suchness (from Basho):

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